Does it get better?

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They won't. The two things are unrelated. Humans are dependent on plants in all sorts of ways - it's not a belief, it's a fact. And a lot of pharmacology is plant based or synthesised from plant models.

Without plants, there would be no history of modern medicine.

5000 years ago, the persians learned that willow bark relieved fever. Today, thanks to the progress made with that discovery, we have aspirin, a drug with multiple, beneficial applications. The druids discovered that foxgloves helped some heart conditions. We now use digitalis (derived from it). Progress is wonderful isn't it? Though we humans are slow to learn as a species!

Hating New Agers because they are "too rigid and dogmatic" is like hating the music of Mozart because "its too much like gangsta rap". It doesnt make any sense as a criticism.

Most religions, and even secular creeds, have some dogmatism. New Agers are no more so than any other. And if anything-New Agers are too much the opposite of rigid. Theyre too UNdogmatic, and amorphous in their beliefs- like boats without rudders. If you have to hate them as a group-hate them for that reason. Not for them having some characteristic that they have less of than everyone else in the human race has.

If you use your condition as an excuse to not do things, nothing gets better.

some of us simply cannot transcend our conditions. horatio alger is a myth for those of us in that situation.

I love Mozart! His piano concerto in D minor is sublime. Can't see how your point I'm afraid. Music is creative, and dynamic, not a set of unchanging and unchallenged dogma or beliefs. I find the analogy strange. Sorry about that.

I know all this....that wasn't my point, its the way the new-agers promote these things that bother me, since they have a way of implying certain things are cure alls or trying to make it some trendy thing, seems like sometimes its more about selling something than the actual benefits of the plant or natural remedy. For instance pro-biotics are good because they help promote good bacteria in the digestive system, sometimes people will notice improvments in their mood due to the general health benefit. But a sterotypical new ager is likely to claim pro-biotics can cure anything from depression to autism, and every other condition in between....it turns into 'bad bacteria is the cause of (insert any condition) therefore pro-biotics will cure it'. Not only does this sort of thing annoy me but it could be dangerous and prevent people from getting real treatment for serious conditions. Its sort of hard to explain, I suppose it just annoys me how a lot of new agers go about it.

There are a lot on a web-site I go to that could fit in that catagory more or less....and I've met real life people that irritate me for the above reasons.

Its sort of like how yuppies annoy me because they try to act like hippies but aren't....not sure if you are familer with those though. Essentially upper class people who will look down their nose at people but try to act like they are all about peace, love and rock music, but its all an image thing...they would probably look down on a real hippie if they met one.

Likewise if you don't acknowledge your limitations, nothing gets better at least in my experience it only burns me out.....a middle ground is probably the best option.

New agers do a lot of magical thinking (though they present it as "laws of the universe") and urge others to do the same as a cure for anything and everything. However, different strokes for different folks..

Not with that attitude you can't.

Chances are you have yet to try every treatment method others have shared that has successfully worked for them, whether some form of therapy, or the diet/herbal protocol I've shared.

Until you actually try something different of course you can't expect any different results than you've been getting.

In a nutshell, the Horatio Alger myth - as I understand it - is: "ALL success or failure is up to the individual, and failure is (simply) not trying hard enough".

Underlying this myth is the core contention that we are all islands, totally indepedent (not interdependent) and the myth is the public relations for the political philosophy of individualism.

The myth is founded on another myth: that we are all on a level playing field. (Excuse me here while I laugh for 5 minutes).

The function of the H.A. myth is to encourage people to blame themselves whatever oppression or discrimination they face. And oppression takes sooooo many forms: victimisation, voicelessness, gate-keeping, nepotism, every ism: sexism, ableism, classism, ageism, racism... (feel free to add more forms and isms!)

The fact is: as a group (sure, there are exceptions) ASD people suffer from gatekeeping which keeps many out of economically viable work. And that's economic oppression. It's something that needs IMO a targeted public relations campaign run in conjunction with ASD people. It's an issue that the NT world prefers to ignore.

along with NT wannabes.

Are you calling me an NT wannabe?

I was not talking to you or about you.

My conditions improved immensely after getting out of high school. The bullying and overcrowding made me feel better over night. As you grow older, you also learn to have your own style, and not follow along with what other people want you to be. I work, drive, have a house and pay bills. Hard to think that 5 years ago, I was basically non-functioning.

Long story short. Yes it gets better. Just get out there and live and learn. Don't let anyone get you down!

ASD wannabes too.

B19: Im just stating the obvious: if you're gonna hate something (hatred is a waist of energy anyway) hate it for a characteristic that it actually has, rather than for something it does not have.

If for some odd reason you decide you hate mozart dont justify it by saying that you hate mozart because he sounds too much like Fitty Cent because mozart does not sound like Fitty Cent ( or sounds less like him than other kinds of music that you are not expressing hatred of).