Murder article emphasizes AS in perpetrator

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This manifesto is much weirder than the Unabomber manifesto.

Or perhaps he wasn't diagnosed at all, and the claims that he was were hearsay.

http://laist.com/2014/05/26/alarming_em ... t_rodg.php

if u study the theroy of emotional intelligence according to this theory all emotions are justified
anger, sadness, love all emotions are right but not in excess

if a person as excess of anger its due to suppressed sadness
somewhere he kept on suppressing his pain
and the youtube videos also say that he was angry to die a virgin

if all he wanted was sex then he should have gone for paid sex
but then as you mentioned he was narcissist then even that wouldnt have sufficied

we all had problems in our life some had to a large extend
being throw out of jobs, ignored by society, abused by parents
we all have pent up anger and sadness which will either lead us to revolt
someday or other
but all of us dont have access to guns

but societies rejection only makes me more angry

1. He was being treated by multiple therapists, and living in an adult independent living center.

2. They prescribed him Resperdione.

3. To have a psychiatrist prescribe you drugs, I would think that there would have to be a diagnosis.

So, I would agree with the attorney ...

Schifman, the father?s attorney, said Rodger was diagnosed as being a high-functioning patient with Asperger syndrome and had trouble making friends.

source, http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/0 ... ers-aware/

I'd say there's an effort by many to sweep any ASD label under the rug for high profile and negative events such as this (in addition to saying the ASD has no bearing on why such and such did this or that and it must be something else).

No one would do such if they said he had psychopathy and nothing else.

Triple double standards ahoy!

Anders (Breivik) didn't get diagnosed with AS, I think they ended up with another condition, though they didn't agree, but AS was not among them.

But at an earlier point in the case, I read in the paper that some might have guessed AS (loner, geeky, right? ), but it wasn't really taken into consideration by the court.

At the time, when I read it in the paper, I worked at a plant nursery, and I said (in fun): how do they dare to let me in here, I might fill my pockets with fertilizer every day and make a bomb!

But yes. It's sad i AS gets a stigma because of those cases.

The attorney is as reliable as the family friend. They're both hearsay.

You don't need a diagnosis to be prescribed medication.

Psychopathy is correlated with increased violence and criminal activity:

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publi ... st-century

Many psychopaths are not violent, but for those who are, their psychopathy definitely impacts their violence.

The shooter may or may not have had AS. Bringing it up as relevant to his violence is specious and irresponsible.

Shooter and stabber, just FYI and all.

And AS isn't related to an increase in forensic settings?

Considering that 1 percent have an ASD....

We'll start seeing studies done on such due to the high profile events where the individual had/has or is thought to have symptoms of, an ASD.

Here in Australia we don't have such associations.

Thank goodness, this morning on KTLA News in Los Angeles, a psychologist gave an interview and stated that Rodger's killing spree was due to other things than Asperger's. It makes me very angry when the media grab onto something like autism, and use it to classify and explain whatever behavior someone is guilty of. How is this different from 50 years ago when something came up missing, and everyone would point to the nearest Black youth?

Enough said.

Charles

You poor American Bastartds

It's true. He may have been misdiagnosed, that's of-course possible but there's considerable effort to try and prove he's misdiagnosed because people don't want to be associated with him, I think.

When there's a child genius or prodigy diagnosed with ASD people on ASD forums don't look at his case and try to prove he's been misdiagnosed.

I think it has a lot more about not wanting the general public to associate Aspergers with spree killers then personal association. And as bad as the existing socially awkward nerd stereotype has been for us, if an association with spree killers is formed in the general public's mind it will be be worse, much much worse.

IMHO Rodgers probably was not on the spectrum, Lanza defiantly was

some of us have looked at his case neutraly, am not bothered if some murderers have ASD;am also ID and that has been associated with many murderers since time began even though probably more than half of them were only diagnosed after going in prison which does not suggest they have the life of someone who is low functioning, but am still not trying to hide the fact,people dont represent a condition or the rest of us,we are all in control of ourselves and ourselves only.

it was after reading his manifesto had started to realise he coud actualy be something else or have complex needs going on,the manifesto does not show any level of autism but social anxiety acutely sticks out,as does narcissism,his upbringing and his unstable life;being moved around like a gypsy,changing schools a lot and never fitting in because he didnt start at the beginning etc.
its highly possible for environmental/ upbringing issues to cause his thinking and actions but people are quick to apply labels.

as for gifted ASD people,well theres always threads on how IQ giftedness can go misdiagnosed as ASD on here.

Autistics aren't the first group of disabled people to be accused of being criminals. Intellectually disabled people got hit with the same thing during the eugenics movement.

It all started with IQ testing and genetics. The idea was that intelligence was inherited. People who were poor and thus uneducated often tested low on IQ tests--tests that might ask them to do things that required literacy or exposure to middle-class society. People would say that criminals tested low on IQ tests; therefore, there was a large threat to society from people who were just smart enough to seem normal--who would marry and have children, therefore pass on their defective genes. They called these people "morons"--those who had an IQ from 50 to 70; on the autism spectrum, the equivalent would be the people labeled high-functioning autistic or Asperger's. They would go around and test people--children, adults, especially immigrants--and would sterilize anyone who tested too low. The idea was that by preventing these "defectives" from reproducing, society would be protected from criminals--rapists, murderers, and thugs.

It wasn't just the "morons" who were sterilized, of course. Quite a few uneducated people, people who didn't speak English well, or people who had a bad day on the day they took the IQ tests, were sterilized too.

It wasn't until the Nazis took the idea and ran with it that the United States came to its senses and decided that "morons" didn't pose as much of a risk as they had thought.

It's an old problem. We're just the latest target.