Write your 3 positives about being on the spectrum

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28 Nov 2014, 1:01 am

It doesn't surprise me that attention to detail, observation skills, writing ability and commitment to honesty were repeatedly cited.

I was a bit surprised not to see creativity more cited more often, and also gifts for ...maths/science/computer science/pattern recognition.

However perhaps this is because I set the topic up as "write 3". It may be that many responders have far more than 3, but were being polite by staying on topic.

If you are one of those, feel very welcome to post three more.



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28 Nov 2014, 7:52 am

1) I'm very gifted (intellectually, academically and artistically)

2) I am very genuine and honest; I have found the same with other people on the spectrum but with NTs it's hit and miss- some NTs are so manipulative, with their own hidden agendas, and the worst part is they make the assumption that I too have hidden agendas where I simply do not; however, as my main pursuit in life is TRUTH, I consider my genuine way of being a positive with regards to that goal (I don't get so caught up in utter lies and blatant BS)

3) The ability to get 100% consumed by one topic at a time. This ability was key to me achieving a huge sudden jump in my career status. Before I embraced my natural obsessional tendencies, I spent a lot of energy fighting them and trying to act like I saw other people acting. But I can't help it, I take things extremely seriously; and this leads to intellectual and artistic breakthroughs. (And is probably the main reason behind my giftedness which I mentioned in 1) )


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28 Nov 2014, 8:35 am

Contrast this with his younger brother, who is already a master of playing one parent off against the other or being an absolute angel for his grandma and then turning utterly vile as soon as I turn up!

Imagine being the sort of parent to describe a 2-year-old as manipulative. The boy is obviously a quick learner and is already mimicking his parents (exactly how children learn to behave at that age). Has it ever occurred to you that he's an "angel" with his grandmother because she most likely treats him like an individual, instead of comparing him to his "pure" older brother and finding him wanting?

My previous post in this thread was deleted, so I don't know if you had time to see it or not. I could just PM you, but then I'd probably be accused of stalking/harrassment.



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28 Nov 2014, 10:14 am

Can't find anything, even how hard that I look.



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28 Nov 2014, 2:23 pm

1). A nonjudgmentalness about others that goes beyond accepting people because they are "different". It extends to a willingness to talk to people from all walks of life, including the rejects of the rejects, with no defensive body language or willingness to communicate a sign that I think I'm better than that person. This is very hard to describe. I just think I understand many odd behaviors and the reasons why people do them.

2). An openmindedness that can make me calm and analytical in certain situations that would cause others to freak out (conversely, I freak out when others are calm! :o )

3). Complete apathy about physical appearance or image. (The older I get, the more I realize that people are very conscious of social image and will sacrifice their time and interests in order to uphold it)



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28 Nov 2014, 4:34 pm

Creativity:
I am very skilled at painting, with my own style using aquarell paint.
I just made 18 illustrations for a book, first time I did this.
At age 3.5 I could already draw in perspective (not real mathematically, but the sense of objects being smaller in the background and bigger in the front).

My greatest special interest was classical ballet (practicing).
I still practice for myself daily, it's all geomatrical patterns.
I sometimes make an own choreographical piece, in January I will dance 7 performances of "Pi" in a theater.
I attached one movement to every number from 0 - 9 and follow the first 1000 characters of Pi, saying them out and the numbers are live following me on a screen via pc.
In the program it's disclosed I am autistic.
Cannot hide it anyway.

I have an inner I-pod, ability to store a lot of music and making own (classical) compositions, but I cannot play an instrument, which is bad.


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28 Nov 2014, 4:47 pm

I can't think of three yet, but I agree with a lot of what has been said.

1. Not needing company as much as an NT (though I still need the company of other humans from time to time.) I can withstand loneliness by not getting as lonely.

2. I'm also very gifted intellectually (supposedly...)

3. I don't mind other oddballs. :)



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28 Nov 2014, 5:36 pm

DevilKisses wrote:
evilreligion wrote:
Weird I'm in the middle of composing a blog post on this about the positives I find in my sons autism

1- He will never be boring. I think it must be absolutely dreadful to have child that's a bit dull and uninteresting. I'm sure most people manage to convince themselves that their kids are really interesting but lets face it the law of averages dictates that most kids are pretty average and somewhat uniform. My son will never in a million years ever be described as uninteresting. He's fascinating, enigmatic and just, well, a very interesting little chap.

2- He's a cat not a dog. Most kids are like eager puppies desperate for adult attention. Its pretty easy to engage with children, you just get down on their level and muck about a bit and they lap it up. No so with my boy. You need to work for it with him, if you are not making enough of an effort to get into his world he will just ignore you like an aloof cat. But if you do get in to his world then he will reward you with affection and incredible levels of contact. This makes it so much more rewarding. Most kids are just attention whores and I love the fact that my son is a cat not a dog.

3- He is pure. Even at the age of 4 1/2 most kids have learned to be nasty, mean and how to manipulate others. I see this already in my NT 2 year old already. But my eldest does not have this malice or cunning. This is a wonderful and beautiful thing as it gives him a purity of spirit that we only really see in babies and toddler. At the same time this makes him very vulnerable to his more cunning peers. But I love the fact that with him there is not deciet, what you see is what you get, if he is upset he cries if he is happy he smiles. He never tries to manipulate anyone because I don't think it even occurs to him to try! Contrast this with his younger brother, who is already a master of playing one parent off against the other or being an absolute angel for his grandma and then turning utterly vile as soon as I turn up!

I know that you're trying to be nice, but I'd be offended if people described me like this.


I agree with devilkisses. But I also I think your (evilreligion's) message is insulting to children who are not autistic. How do you think your NT 2 year old will feel if he ever reads this?? You generalise a lot, you are idealising autistic children while assuming children who are not autistic are automatically nasty and boring (and attention whores), but either can be nice or nasty. The fact that your AS child doesn't need your attention as much doesn't make him better nor worse than your NT child, he probably simply doesn't care whether you give him attention unless he wants/needs something, he's busy with his own interests. And I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but autistic children can also be manipulative at times.

Please do appreciate both your children equally and quit putting your NT child down.

I also dislike your description and generalisation of cats and dogs, I like both equally, and both my cats and dogs ask for my attention (my previous cats even came along when I walked my dogs - both my cats and dogs follow me around constantly, jump on my lap, put their "arms" around my neck, etc), both cats and dogs can be mischevious at time, and both are nice in their own way. I couldn't live without either.

Please focus on writing good things about your autistic son, without putting everything and everyone else down.


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29 Nov 2014, 5:36 am

1. Coming up with solutions that most won't
2. We are quiet neighbors
3. Don't change what is working well just for the sake of change.


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29 Nov 2014, 5:11 pm

My artistic eye: being able to capture or see things in my own way to create something original.

My ability to be honest and speak my mind.

My ability to problem solve, it has gotten me out of some sticky situations.


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01 Dec 2014, 9:08 am

Wow! Such anger here. I am genuinly disturbed by the responses to my post. How did we get from 3 positive things about my sons autism to a diatribe on what a terrible parent I am?

The fact that these diatribes are based on misconceptions, misinterpretations, suppositions, wild conjecture and ignorance are more telling about the writers than me I think. I'm sorry life has treated you badly that you feel the need to take some simple observations about my wonderful son and turn it into something nasty and imply that I am some kind of NT hating monster. This is absurd as it is offensive. I think this, perhaps is indicative of some sort of psycologoical projection and thus illuminates some considerable inner termoil in the hearts and minds of the writers. That's all I can think of to explain what has happened here. I hope you find some peace someday.



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01 Dec 2014, 9:44 am

Nobody could determine one's parenting style and ability based upon an internet presentation--that would be ridiculous.

I would attribute some of the criticism to the fact that many autistic people have parents who don't bother to understand autism too well. Please don't think it's a reflection on your parenting.

I believe the best approach is to offer advice and insights, rather than bold criticism.

Most of the responses, it seems to me, have merely been people offering the "positives" of having autism



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01 Dec 2014, 4:34 pm

Yes Kraftie that's how I see it too.

Lately on WP I have noticed that topics are continually getting hijacked, and there is more personal targeting of unwitting posters with no agenda but to express their own experience going on.



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01 Dec 2014, 5:08 pm

evilreligion wrote:
Wow! Such anger here. I am genuinly disturbed by the responses to my post. How did we get from 3 positive things about my sons autism to a diatribe on what a terrible parent I am?

The fact that these diatribes are based on misconceptions, misinterpretations, suppositions, wild conjecture and ignorance are more telling about the writers than me I think. I'm sorry life has treated you badly that you feel the need to take some simple observations about my wonderful son and turn it into something nasty and imply that I am some kind of NT hating monster. This is absurd as it is offensive. I think this, perhaps is indicative of some sort of psycologoical projection and thus illuminates some considerable inner termoil in the hearts and minds of the writers. That's all I can think of to explain what has happened here. I hope you find some peace someday.


I obviously was too blunt and should have softened my words. I do not think you are an "NT hating monster" in the slightest, but I was disturbed to hear a 2-year-old being described as "manipulative". If the boy behaves like an "angel" with his grandmother, but is "vile" with you, then don't you want to know why that is? Does the boy get undisturbed 1-to-1 attention with his grandmother? Is it a calmer, quieter, atmosphere at his grandmother's house? I'm not asking these questions to try to paint you out as a dreadful mother: I'm quite sure you do the best you can for both boys. I'm asking out of genuine curiosity and, however misplaced, some desire to help.

I suppose to keep this vaguely on topic, I should try to answer the original topic.

1) Learning how to make friends and... oh wait.
2) Honesty. So I can learn how to make friends and... hang on again.
3) Attention to detail. So I can learn how to make friends by pointing out their mistakes... oops, scrap that.



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01 Dec 2014, 5:16 pm

Good for you rethinking this, NCOT



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01 Dec 2014, 5:26 pm

You don't know how hard it was for me to even come up with those two things... :-/