Has this site suddenly become more nasty?

Page 4 of 11 [ 169 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ... 11  Next

QuiversWhiskers
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 May 2014
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 616

28 Dec 2014, 2:35 pm

Rocket123 wrote:
For me, the entire notion of this being a “support site” is pure folly. I come here to learn about people’s experience of being on the spectrum. As such, I want to read about different perspectives. If someone says something that someone else disagrees with, that statement should be challenged (as, in my world, silence means consent).

With that being said, I don’t believe people should be rude to one another.


Don't know about it being folly, but I agree with the rest of this. And I think the spirit of support is here in that most everyone here is on common business, being that most here have ASD or have noticeable autistic tendencies.


_________________
RDOS Aspie Score: 145 or 144/200 Aspie, 68 or 57/200 NT

Defies categorization. A mixed bag.


btbnnyr
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 May 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 7,359
Location: Lost Angleles Carmen Santiago

28 Dec 2014, 2:40 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
I joined in August 2013 and I have noticed this. Two things in particular seemed to have changed
An attitude that newbies asking if I am autistic are probably 1. Not Autistic 2. Intentionally or not fooling themselves and others 3. This is part of a widespread phenomenon making my real autism look like a fraud to others. Asking if I am Autistic is not the same as self diagnosis or even a likely future self diagnosis.

An attitude of my freedom of speech right trumps any hurt feelings or worse that may occur as a result. Attempts to bring attention to results of speech is censorship by politically correct people. I don’t remember it being a hug a thon back in ’13 but I incorrectly or not I did get a feeling of people having a greater sense of basic commonality and respect for triggers then there is now.

I see complaining that we are getting too NT while at the same time noting that our site is not as bad as NT’s sites.

It could be that my lack of understanding of motives means I am completely misreading the situation. I do think the August-September 2013 period I joined the board was unusually congenial.


The people saying wp is too nt and the people saying wp is not as bad as nt sites (whatever that means) are probably not the same people, so they are complaining from different perspectives.


_________________
Drain and plane and grain and blain your brain, and then again,
Propane and butane out of the gas main, your blain shall sustain!


olympiadis
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Jun 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,849
Location: Fairview Heights Illinois

28 Dec 2014, 2:45 pm

If I suddenly become nasty, I'm going to blame it
on the white background, and gangster rap.



InThisTogether
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 3 Jul 2012
Age: 57
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,709
Location: USA

28 Dec 2014, 2:48 pm

olympiadis wrote:
If I suddenly become nasty, I'm going to blame it
on the white background, and gangster rap.


ROFL...thanks! I really enjoyed that!


_________________
Mom to 2 exceptional atypical kids
Long BAP lineage


Kuribo64
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

User avatar

Joined: 22 Aug 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 34
Location: Scotland

28 Dec 2014, 2:53 pm

In my experience, WP has always gone through phases. Sometimes, it's a wonderful place to be, but there are times when what I'd like to think are a vocal minority generate a very hostile atmosphere. Unfortunately, it's just something you'll have to accept if you're going to post on a forum as large and busy as this.


_________________
NOTE: I disown much of what I posted using this account. Peace.


B19
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Jan 2013
Gender: Female
Posts: 9,993
Location: New Zealand

28 Dec 2014, 3:22 pm

NiceCupOfTea wrote:
B19 wrote:
btbnnyr wrote:
There seems less engaging discussion of topics related to autism and more social-emotional support messages.
People keep posting that wp is support forum, even though it doesn't say that on wp about page.


About a fortnight ago Alex posted, reminding one poster - not you - that WP is a support site, so attacking others isn't really a good idea.


It's mildly ironic that you reject authority over the medical diagnosis of autism, but appeal to it when it matches your beliefs, e.g. your belief that WP should be a support forum.

Frankly, I thought The Haven was meant to be WP's support forum? If all you lot who craved this 'support' you go on about moved to The Haven, you have my word I will not interrupt you.


You distort things to suit yourself, NCOT. You hate me, so what? You've made that point ad nauseum over the past few weeks. We get it.



Basso53
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Jan 2014
Age: 71
Gender: Male
Posts: 619
Location: Massachusetts USA

28 Dec 2014, 4:11 pm

I haven't been around for all that long, but I see the same things as I do at other internet sites.

There are people who ask questions seeking an honest answer.

Then there are people who ask questions seeking the answer they want to hear, and get pissed off at the answers they don't want to hear.

Some people also confuse support with validation. They don't always mean the same thing.


_________________
AQ 34
Your Aspie score: 104 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 116 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits


Rocket123
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Dec 2012
Age: 62
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,188
Location: Lost in Space

28 Dec 2014, 4:13 pm

Joe90 wrote:
...and the last thing I need is my WP friends making me feel bad...

Joe...I always enjoyed reading your posts.

Interestingly, I cannot imagine anyone here being a friend (or an acquaintance for that matter). As for me, friends are people I do things with. People here are no more friends (for me) than characters I on watch on TV (though I don't watch much TV). With that being said, I certainly respect many people on WP..As there are undoubtedly many really really smart people posting here.



btbnnyr
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 May 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 7,359
Location: Lost Angleles Carmen Santiago

28 Dec 2014, 4:34 pm

People who want to see agreement or social-emotional support only can post so in opening post of thread or in their post if they did not start the thread, then I will not post to disagree or discuss the topic in a way that is not social-emotional support if they started the thread or reply to them in a way that is not social-emotional support if they posted but didn't start the thread.

Otherwise, there is no way for me to know what they want or don't want.

People who don't want social-emotional support but free-for-all discussion can also post so, so I know, and I would be more likely to participate in this kind of thread than support threads.

People who want something else specific can also post so, unless they want personal attacks, in which case other people should not fulfill their requests, since that is against forum rules.


_________________
Drain and plane and grain and blain your brain, and then again,
Propane and butane out of the gas main, your blain shall sustain!


Hansgrohe
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 13 Apr 2013
Age: 27
Gender: Male
Posts: 329
Location: Oakland, CA

28 Dec 2014, 5:09 pm

I've been on various forums where people were complaining it was turning into a "hugbox", whatever the hell that means.

Overall, I'm not sure if the site has gotten "nastier". Perhaps certain events may influence the state of the site. Also, by nature, WP is a support forum, since it is meant to be a haven for those on the spectrum. Of course, there are probably more "extreme" elements on here as well, and given what kind of forum this is, I think that's to be expected.

A forum isn't perfect.



ToughDiamond
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Sep 2008
Age: 72
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,278

28 Dec 2014, 5:17 pm

There does seem to be a spectrum of preference for nice or blunt. I guess it's based on upbringing. Typically those from a blunt background find niceness too sickly-sweet, and those from nice backgrounds find bluntness too oppressive.



trollcatman
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Dec 2012
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,919

28 Dec 2014, 5:56 pm

chagya wrote:
It has been very nasty. One of the best ways to avoid the worst of it is to avoid PPR. That is where the most vile of the vile seem to congregate. Specifically avoid certain topics. It's best to just keep opinions to ourselves rather than expose ourselves to those levels of vitriol. WP is amok with OCD, and where OCD people congregate and bang on each others triggers it only becomes infectious.



PPR is deliberaly less strictly moderated than the other subforums. I think the Love & Hating forum is the nastiest though.



wozeree
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Aug 2013
Age: 63
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,344

28 Dec 2014, 6:16 pm

People forget that this is all just a bunch of yapping that will vaporize over time to make way for more of the same type yapping as the years roll by. I like skibum a lot, I thinks she's sweet, but to be so sensitive that you leave a place where so many people constantly tell you they hold you high regard because one or two people are acting kind of trollish is a bit too over the top sensitive for me. It's easy to do though, take things personally, think this moment and you in it are so important, I've done it myself many times! In the end, I don't believe anything we say here really matters, it's all just talk. I kind of think this site has run its course, or maybe it will just keep running the same course over and over.



Raleigh
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jul 2014
Age: 125
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 34,587
Location: Out of my mind

28 Dec 2014, 6:25 pm


_________________
It's like I'm sleepwalking


btbnnyr
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 May 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 7,359
Location: Lost Angleles Carmen Santiago

28 Dec 2014, 7:28 pm

The in-person autism support groups I attended were not really social-emotional support-like or sickly sweet like wp often feels to me. There were mostly straightforward people advising other straightforward people on what to do and how to do it. When people talk about their problems, it was more practical suggestion kind of support than social-emotional support.


_________________
Drain and plane and grain and blain your brain, and then again,
Propane and butane out of the gas main, your blain shall sustain!


ASPartOfMe
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Aug 2013
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 36,797
Location: Long Island, New York

28 Dec 2014, 8:12 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
The in-person autism support groups I attended were not really social-emotional support-like or sickly sweet like wp often feels to me. There were mostly straightforward people advising other straightforward people on what to do and how to do it. When people talk about their problems, it was more practical suggestion kind of support than social-emotional support.


That has been the case in the support groups I have attended. I have only seen one literal hug. Also the "political" issues like "cure" or "Autism Speaks are discussed much less so less opportunity for friction. And "self diagnosed/suspected" are accepted into the groups I have attended so that is a non-issue.


_________________
Professionally Identified and joined WP August 26, 2013
DSM 5: Autism Spectrum Disorder, DSM IV: Aspergers Moderate Severity

“My autism is not a superpower. It also isn’t some kind of god-forsaken, endless fountain of suffering inflicted on my family. It’s just part of who I am as a person”. - Sara Luterman