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29 Jul 2015, 11:51 am

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Depends on the woman


What does that mean?


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29 Jul 2015, 11:54 am

If she's nice and I dig her, how many men she has made love with is irrelevant.

In general terms, it really doesn't matter to me. It's fascinating either way. Virgins and experienced ladies all have interesting stories .



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29 Jul 2015, 11:59 am

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Didn't have a lot of time to look, but a quick internet search turned up the following NT norms for males:

Age at marriage - 29.8
Number of relationships before marriage - 8
Number of sexual partners before marriage - 10
Number of one night stands - 6
Average age of first sexual experience - 16


I don't agree. I saw where most "people" have 5-7 sex partners before marriage - and that would be including men.


Here are 2 links to articles that cite reputable sources for data that supports these figures.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... rents-did/

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/love-sex/397 ... rs-average


Why does it matter????????
It's not PROVABLE (maybe only with a lie detector). Men will always stretch the truth and say more (thinking that makes them more attractive - I just think they're a walking venereal disease and lucky that a certain appendage hasn't fallen right off) and women will always cover it up and say less so they aren't seen as a slut - it's a double standard (for most men I guess - not for me).


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29 Jul 2015, 12:01 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
If she's nice and I dig her, how many men she has made love with is irrelevant.

In general terms, it really doesn't matter to me. It's fascinating either way. Virgins and experienced ladies all have interesting stories .



I don't like how the words "made love" are thrown around. If a person has been with a lot of people - that's not love - that's sex. Lets keep it real.


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29 Jul 2015, 12:11 pm

Why are you being so abrasive? I think of it as "making love" every time. You don't know my experiences.



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29 Jul 2015, 12:15 pm

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Why are you being so abrasive? I think of it as "making love" every time. You don't know my experiences.


Fine. It's how you think.

I think people take sex too lightly these days.

Question. So you were in love with all of your one night stands?


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29 Jul 2015, 12:20 pm

No.....but it ain't just effing

You have an axe to grind today.



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29 Jul 2015, 12:53 pm

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Question. What do men think about a woman who has had a lot of conquests?


I think it depends on the guy as well. Some would welcome it, thinking the woman is more sexually open, has more experience, is more likely to enjoy variety. Others would be put off by it. Some men really want virgins. Some probably wouldn't care one way or the other. I know that my wife has had more sexual partners than I have. I don't know the number, as we don't discuss those parts of our past lives with each other, but it really doesn't bother me.

It doesn't help that the media constantly says that males have to have lots of sexual conquests, and if you don't, you are a loser. Watch any sitcom, most commercials, most movies, that is the message that is constantly being pounded into our minds.



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29 Jul 2015, 12:54 pm

nurseangela wrote:
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nurseangela wrote:
ProfessorJohn wrote:
Didn't have a lot of time to look, but a quick internet search turned up the following NT norms for males:

Age at marriage - 29.8
Number of relationships before marriage - 8
Number of sexual partners before marriage - 10
Number of one night stands - 6
Average age of first sexual experience - 16


I don't agree. I saw where most "people" have 5-7 sex partners before marriage - and that would be including men.


Here are 2 links to articles that cite reputable sources for data that supports these figures.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... rents-did/

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/love-sex/397 ... rs-average


Why does it matter????????
It's not PROVABLE (maybe only with a lie detector). Men will always stretch the truth and say more (thinking that makes them more attractive - I just think they're a walking venereal disease and lucky that a certain appendage hasn't fallen right off) and women will always cover it up and say less so they aren't seen as a slut - it's a double standard (for most men I guess - not for me).


Ok, then why do you believe the 5-7 figure that you posted earlier? Isn't that subject to the same biases that you believe these other figures are?



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29 Jul 2015, 1:01 pm

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hasn't fallen right off) and women will always cover it up and say less so they aren't seen as a slut - it's a double standard (for most men I guess - not for me).


I will agree, there is a huge double standard when it comes to sex, and it isn't fair. I think it works both ways, in that men are much more likely to be seen as a loser if they are a virgin or have little experience than women are. That still doesn't make it correct how each gender is labeled.

I think part of it has to do with the gender difference in ease of acquisition. If a woman who is slightly average appearance or better (or maybe even slightly below average) walks into a college party and announces "I want to have sex, who is ready" there would be guys lining up for her. If a guy did the same think, he would be laughed at, mocked, labelled a pervert, but probably wouldn't have any women lining up unless he was famous, extremely good looking, or very wealthy.



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29 Jul 2015, 3:14 pm

ProfessorJohn wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
ProfessorJohn wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
ProfessorJohn wrote:
Didn't have a lot of time to look, but a quick internet search turned up the following NT norms for males:

Age at marriage - 29.8
Number of relationships before marriage - 8
Number of sexual partners before marriage - 10
Number of one night stands - 6
Average age of first sexual experience - 16


I don't agree. I saw where most "people" have 5-7 sex partners before marriage - and that would be including men.


Here are 2 links to articles that cite reputable sources for data that supports these figures.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... rents-did/

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/love-sex/397 ... rs-average


Why does it matter????????
It's not PROVABLE (maybe only with a lie detector). Men will always stretch the truth and say more (thinking that makes them more attractive - I just think they're a walking venereal disease and lucky that a certain appendage hasn't fallen right off) and women will always cover it up and say less so they aren't seen as a slut - it's a double standard (for most men I guess - not for me).


Ok, then why do you believe the 5-7 figure that you posted earlier? Isn't that subject to the same biases that you believe these other figures are?


I brought that up because you were dealing in statistics and it was to show a different statistic from your own meaning that no statistic is correct.


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29 Jul 2015, 3:21 pm

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No.....but it ain't just effing

You have an axe to grind today.


You're right. It angers me how women are held to a stricter standard than men when it comes to sex. And don't say there isn't one. With what I'm saying is that men may think having multiple partners makes them look more attractive, but it doesn't - at least to me. Other women here would have to say what they think. But it's nauseating to hear men talk about being with so many women and acting like its something to be proud of. With all the diseases out there today, all I want to do when I hear that someone is very promiscuous is put some gloves on and a hazmat suit.


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29 Jul 2015, 3:47 pm

This is what I'm talking about. If men are reading this kind of trash and believing it, then this is what women are supposed to be like in order to be "marriage material".


https://boldanddetermined.com/pick-the-right-wife/


This upsets me so much that I'm making a thread!


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29 Jul 2015, 5:30 pm

I know you're not referring to me; you're referring to men in general.

As for me, if you would read what I've written, I never stated that I'm "proud" I've had a few partners. I've regretted somewhat, in fact. I believe in quality over quantity, any day.

I'm not "most men." I'm an okay guy, not a great guy. I've made my mistakes (not major ones). I don't know if you've seen this: but I actually wrote that I would prefer it if a guy remain a virgin, rather than make love must to "lose" virginity.



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29 Jul 2015, 5:35 pm

nurseangela wrote:
This is what I'm talking about. If men are reading this kind of trash and believing it, then this is what women are supposed to be like in order to be "marriage material".


https://boldanddetermined.com/pick-the-right-wife/


This upsets me so much that I'm making a thread!


I think you're right. The stuff on that "bold and determined" page is unbridled male supremacism (the title of the site is something of a sick-bucket alert), and even as a man I find it pretty odious stuff, as I'm sure most folks here will. What we've got on this here thread (with its obsession with "notches-on-the-bedpost" statistics) is not so blatantly misogynistic, but in my view it does fall into some of the same traps.