Is it just me or is this all f****d up?

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From reading this thread. I am getting the impression, that everyone here thinks, that because of their autism, your the only person in the world that has problems. Well, I got news for you. The world in general is f**ked up to the core and is full of problems. just turn on the news and you'll see what I mean. I wish people would stop thinking that "if I only had/didn't have this" or "if I only had/didn't have that" that my life would be better, because it won't be.

FACT: Did you know that the average person on earth lives on $2 a day. Most of you here on WP live on $15 a day.

As you are aware by now, you are not the only one who thinks about this. But my opinions on the matter are different:

- I agree that consummerism is bad. In fact, I believe it is one of the worst vices of society: it stands in the way of progress, it turns people into vain, selfish as*holes too short-sighted to care about any collateral damage inflicted on other people or even the world itself and it is ridiculously pointless anyway. Unfortunately, I do not see it going away anytime soon, unless a really huge crisis hits the world and sets people's priorities straight (i.e. caring about survival, instead of about whether your shoes match your belt). But do not worry: given the current state of rampant consummerism, I suspect a crisis will happen in a few decades or centuries.

- Although no one will ever make a significant change in the world, the small changes eventually lead to bigger ones in the following generations. If you have the potential to do something useful , you should do it.

- Regardless of the above, you should never content yourself with living off anyone's back, be they your parents or your worst enemy. I said consummerism is one of the worst vices of society. Well, complacency is another one of those vices, closely (but not necessarily always) related to consummerism. Never be complacent: if you are truly minimalist as you say, you should find at least a job that provides enough for your low maintenance costs. Live with your parents, but at least pay for your food and leisure.

Personally, I plan to keep living under society's rules long enough for me to buy my mother a house. We do not own a house and since I am the only person in the family with the potential to achieve something "good" (according to our consummerist, capitalist society's definition of "good"), I want to ensure that she can live comfortably. Once I do that, I will practice what I preach: since I am a minimalist like you and I believe people can live more content lives if they only care about the important things in life (no, buying a new smartphone is not important), I intend to become a hermit. Well, an adventurer would be a better definition: I will get a backpack, a tent, a metal pot to boil water, a compass, a knife and whatever knowledge of wilderness survival I can, keep some money in a savings account for when I need to restock my supplies and just walk around the continent. I have been researching on which insects I can eat, how to cook rattlesnakes, how to distill urine for consumption and related things. I may also get a folding bike to facilitate transport or even a small boat (since I will mainly stay close to the water). I may also keep a journal: if things go my way, I could have something publishable by the time I get too old and I have to go back home (although I do not expect I will live long enough to retire; I am totally fine with that, by the way). Maybe it could inspire other people to do the same (hahaha, no. I am not the first one to do this and I have never heard of anyone inspired by my predecessors).

Anyway, if that does not work but I still manage to survive, I can at least go back to the house I will have bought by then. It will be in the beach, because it is cheaper and I am really tired of living in the huge metropolis I am currently in.

Ah. I could see the term 'selfish' being ok, but 'useless person', you're right, that's just uncalled for.

Citation please, because I call bull. The average worker earns between $20,000 - $40,000 per year (as official records (click me) indicate and confirm). You know how much I get to live off of? Barely $8,000/yr. I can't afford a car, gas, nothing. 98% of the money I have goes to bills, and the other 2% on what I can afford to get when I need it, this includes all household products and personal hygiene items. In fact, the only reason I can afford internet right now is because I was lucky to be able to afford it without compromising everything else, and it's the one and only thing I was able to spend on myself. Ironically enough, I need it to pay my bills as well, so even that wasn't without reason.

Also, I don't think any of us think we are the 'only ones who have problems', though it's a foregone conclusion that our problems are quite numerous, in some cases those problems are worse than the problems normal people face every day. I can tell you right now, if I didn't have the problems that I do from AS (Asperger's Syndrome), I could:
Drive
Get a Job
Earn actual money
And live life like everyone else for a change, instead of being forced into a sh*tty apartment because of my crap income.

So, yes, my life would be better off without my AS, my life would be better off because I wouldn't be dealing with countless hours of useless info going through my head 24/7, non-stop, I could actually focus on and keep a real job, and I could earn some actual income.
Finally, the sh*t you see on the 'news', it's all just biased crap, the only truth you'll see on tv is... yeah I got nothing because it's not possible to see truth on tv.

I get like that too, in terms of reflecting and thinking really deep about life and the meaning of it all...

Everyone's right though! we do all exist and we have to try and coexist whilst we exist, NT or Aspie we're all still different, with different perceptions, thoughts, ect.
We can't change peoples way of thinking, only our own.

We have to adapt and overcome!

Humanity teaches us that we're here to procreate but I don't think that's always the case.
Everyone makes a contrition in life in some ways, even if it means just trying to be a good citizen or a friend, trying to live life to the full, i'd guess it all counts for something, even if at times it all seems meaningless...

We can dwell about humanity and lifes issues and of course whatever happens amongst society effects us all, it is not our jobs to fix everyone's lifes but our own. Everyone has their issues, whether or not it's self inflicted or is due to our disabilities ect...

Plus no matter what the government implement amongst society, when it comes to economics or government, whatever happens, whether or not any changes are good or bad, it has consequences for all, some are often worse off, others not so much

Nt or aspie, also we all find it a struggle in, in life.

At some point, you have to consider whether or not the attitude espoused in the OP is in your own best interest. Wanting to tell the whole world to eat s**t and die is completely understandable and I'm pretty sure every single autistic on WrongPlanet has felt this way at least once in their life.

But we still have a need to function in this world and to be able to find a career that makes most use of our skills and be a good husband or wife or father or mother and be able to find social communities we connect to. And feeling like the rest of the world can go f**k itself is totally understandable for those going through what we are; I think most of us can see that much. But just because it is understandable doesn't mean it is helping our situation in the slightest.

Eventually, I think we start to see that, above everything else, having the mentality of the OP 24/7 will make things worse for us and is ultimately just not in our own best interests either.

Some data in support of the general thrust of LupaLuna's post:
"Average" may not be right, because the high incomes of the rich countries skew the stats, but majority, yes:
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-17312819

But:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-17512040

So $8,000/year is very low in a developed country.

Still, the numbers from the World Bank are grim:
http://data.worldbank.org/sites/default ... il2011.pdf

However, that is all in a global context and you exist in a local context in which what you say is true.

I actually feel the same way you do. The only people I genuinely care for in my life at this point is my family. And by family I mean only my mom, dad, sister, grandma, and cousin because I can not stand most of my family members! I don't have much empathy. I have no interest in starting my own family too. I have been hurt so badly in the past that now I ask myself, "Why bother becoming involved in my society when people are only mean to me?" I wish I weren't like this, but I am.

The only good thing about society are pubs with best friend jack daniels allowing me to crash through the night.
Man, sometimes i am so glad to be alone 99% of the time... f**k society, f**k the complexity of friendships, relationships and the quest to understand and trying to comprehend how to succesfully engage one of those things.

There ya go, my rant for tonight.. i am a little drunk but i am fine otherwise. What was i sayin again?

Better go to bed.. gotta swim tomorrow with a friend

This thread is great. It made me lol so hard I almost choked on my cereal. I really hope we're not all tarred with the same brush as the OP.
Some people want to complain that everything is against them and in response, they're going to make things worse for themselves.
Some people want to work to make things better.

Good luck until you change from one to the other. Otherwise your life is going to be HARD and it'll be on you.

Maz

No, I dont support any of those; actually, as those came after my own initial post, I never saw them; what I saw was only on the following page, since I'd come back to the topic and just clicked the last page in the list to see what was going on with it.

If he means that crap genuinely, then yes, I'd take back any defensive thing I'd said... I dont tolerate jackassery, but I also dont tolerate someone saying crap like that and MEANING it. ....well frankly I dont tolerate anyone saying it either...

Granted, there's still a chance he's just venting (because I've heard friends do that before, though if they keep it up too long, as in more than 5 seconds, I just yell at them alot), but.... hm.

Good of you to point that out, I'd not have noticed those otherwise since I'm so blasted spacey.

For starters I don't consider Aspergers a "condition", we're simply wired differently much like homosexuals are wired differently then heterosexuals. How much you decide to participate in the NT world is at least to a certain extent up to you.

There's a lot of good advice here, but I'd like to add a few things in case it helps.

You can stew in your own anger, resentment, frustration or not: much of what you harbor or put out into this world, whether it's good or bad, world will either stick like crazy glue or come back on you, and at least some of it will kick your @ss in a most unpleasant way—as others have pointed out. Example: if you constantly tell the universe to get out of your face, eventually, it will. You may face hunger, the loss of the few possessions you do care for, and homelessness, to name just a few discomforts. If you think society hates you now (and believe me, not everyone in it does), just wait and see how much better the grumpy ones will (NOT) perceive you to be worthy of anything. If you think they won’t help you when you need it, they likely won’t because it’s very difficult to give a sh!t about someone so potentially nasty.

Now, as others have said, life isn't fair and sometimes even the kindest, most understanding, generous people get the short end of the stick while the greedy, angry, morality-starved people seem to be strangely rewarded, but that's just the way things go. Period.

As much as you’d like to check out, it’s impossible to do so entirely, and it’s not the fault of humans. In one way or another, everything is connected and can’t be entirely separated from everything else and still survive as-is for long. In case it helps, I'll explain this further:

The planets and their moons are tied together in their orbits. The sky in our corner of the cosmos contains some of the same elements as every body of water, as does the soil, rocks and mountains, the sun, and the earth’s core. Every living thing here NEEDS at least some of those elements too, whether those things are plants or other animals, regardless of when or how they get them/take them in their life cycles. Even after death, other creatures and inanimate things--including plants, soil, and so on--can benefit from those dead things or even depend on them almost entirely for their continued survival or betterment. All living organisms depend on others for at least a little while, and you could call it selfishness or greed if you want, but that’s just one point of view.

That brings me back to the value of perspective/disposition/mood: your current mindset can benefit you and anyone else as it can prepare you for the disappointment and hardships that are an integral part of life and can also remind others of us that things could be worse for us. However, just as there would be no darkness without light and vice-versa (and I know I’m putting this into a simplistic dichotomy here, but I only have so much time to give), there is indeed a lighter side of things that can be perhaps even more enjoyable because you can/might find greater satisfaction and purpose in what might be just a few bright moments of your existence. If everything were sunshine and sugar all the time, you’d likely get quite bored and begin to take it for granted (as in some ways you do already—ahem), but it seems like you’re relatively stuck in the darkness and mud, at least for now. You can stay there if you let yourself, but perhaps the ultimate revenge and your ultimate satisfaction can come from, as someone once said, not letting the b@st@rds get you down.

That is why I am a NEET since I hate society and everyone who belongs to it. So, if the government and my parents want to continue my habits of buying japanese super heroes toys they can go ahead.

Yep its pretty fd up. There is a huge community of folk autistic and non autistic who reject the consumer society thing. Look up the moneyless man and the minimalists. Yes human beings are often cruel and this can be seen in the natural world too. You are not cruel or unkind or judgemental. Use this to your advantage and empower yourself to make the difference you want to see in this world because you have alot to offer. You just don't know it yet. One day your parents might need you to take care of them and you will need to riseto the cchallenge by first looking after yourself. Best wishes and good luck x.

I am diagnosed with HFA and am on SSI, only way to do that is to not be able to work...so there is no way you can say with any amount of accuracy every high functioning autistic is capable of working at a job. It does more depend on the individual the severity of each of their symptoms as well as co-morbids one might have. I do not doubt many HFA people can hold jobs, and maybe even fake 'normal' some of the time...but I certainly am not one of them. Hard to till if the OP is or not...hard to sort out from their posts what the specific difficulty is and if its that they really couldn't work or they are perfectly capable and just want to flat out refuse...I am guessing the former just based on some of my past attitudes.

Also I am well aware people pick on people for being different and such, but I also fail at faking...doesn't mean I go around acting like an a**hole to everyone but I can't fake that I am normal or whatever, I come off as weird no matter what I do...so just putting it out there this is the way it is for some, your post is not an accurate reflection of how it is for everyone with HFA. And the last bit about sinking or swimming and failing in the real world...well that is a reality for lots of us that we're sinking and failing and slipping through the cracks which is why perhaps it would be important for society to attempt to do something to help....So I do understand the OPs disdain for even wanting to try if the only messege they get is society will never change and if you can't fake it then you're just f***d and society doesn't care is that the kind of society someone at a disadvantage wants to be a part of?