Are there different kinds of Aspies?

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Well, the NEW AS diagnosis say that they can't have clinically significant cognitive impairment for AS, but MUST have it for MR. The older ones said the ranges must be at or above normal range, which is clearly not MR.

I thought that was clear.

If it makes you feel any better, Autism has NO such limitation and USED to REQUIRE such a low IQ.

Steve

but what i'm saying is there is mild, medium and severe As. you said there is not. thats a problem. now do you wanna answer that?

NOPE, you DIDN'T! You said there was Low, medium, and HIGH functioning! Different implication there! Though I haven't seen any statement that there is such a thing, some say they DO have mild AS. I always figured that meant a lack of self abusive or violent stims. Maybe I am wrong there, but it seemed to fit. Otherwise, I won't venture a guess. There can NOT be low FUNCTIONING,Meaning a lack of ability to function on your own, because that goes against the criteria for AS. ALSO, I DID say you could actually have a low normal IQ. Maybe THAT could be considered low functioning. YOU then followed the MR tangent, and I answered THAT.

I'm not a psychiatrist, and never claimed to be, though many psychiatrists DO seem to be taking too many liberties, so I wouldn't take what THEY say as law either. They are almost like lawyers. Lawyers will INTENTIONALLY break the law, and later you get a law that conflicts with OTHER laws! CRAZY!

Steve

its the same thing you doofus. its like saying it, or its. is that different? no its the same thing. you dont know what you are talking about. a low normal IQ? whats that? if you had aspergers and a "low normal IQ" would you still have As? (i think you would) but i dont know what your trying to do anymore exept make things up as you go along

It's low end of normal. WOW, I was wondering when you would go just ONE step further. HECK, you first say one thing, then another and waver back and forth and call ME doofus!? WOW! And I'll say ONE thing! You ARE contentious and bellicose!

Steve

but i thought you said aspergers was high functioning only? so wich is it?
and im not going to play your word scramble. anyone can go back in this thread to see i made sence and you didnt.

give it up

didn't mean to start any arguements...

According to DSM IV, for a diagnosis of Asperger's:
"Criterion E. There are no clinically significant delays in cognitive
development or in the development of age-appropriate
self-help skills, adaptive behaviour (other than in social
interaction), and curiosity about the environment in
childhood."

Since IQ, in children, is based on the idea of mental age versus chronological age, a child with "no clinically significant delays in cognitive development" would be, by definition, in the normal IQ range or above.

Autistim does not have that requirement in DSM, so an autistic can have any level of intelligence.

Well I did post once that I was going to round up everyone and give them math tests, but I was overruled because I cannot draw, have no musical talent, but I can fix any machine. I thought I was well read, I have been put to shame by people much younger, I hold my own in Physics, and am weak in a hundred other places.

I have tried to figure this place. I thought clusters of related intelligence, it did not pan out. My statment stands, I have never matched a pair in this game. At the same time I relate to everyone.

Yeah, I'm kind of the same as you, but different. I can fix any machine. I have read science and technical books, but not TOO much else lately. I used to be THE clear expert in every aspect of my interests, and a PERFECTIONIST, but the interests have gotten profitable and some people just think they are smarter than they are. They learn needless things, and try to point me in a direction I never wanted to go. Why use a special inefficient feature that only works on one system, as they want, when I can use a common efficient feature? Still, they persuade by number and argument, so I end up doing it. 8-( THAT makes them appear to have some skills I don't. THAT, coupled with timetables and argument, has caused me to lose my perfectionism. 8-(

Still, there ARE some close matches. I have seen some like me, some like you, some like some others. Nobody is IDENTICAL though. Actually, MY strengths are mechanics and some sciences that aren't based on physics. I guess yours are math and physics.

Mozart,

I already did. 2 cycles is enough! 8-(

poopylungstuffing,

Oh, it's not your fault. I kind of expected this a few, weeks ago. I even commented on it, but retracted my comment a couple minutes later in case I was wrong. It is IRONIC! Some argued that so many AS people are smarter because so much of the lower end is weeded out by the diagnosis.

Steve

Yeah theyres many kinds of aspies, theyre called individuals.