Not showing proper deference to authority figures?

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21 Dec 2015, 8:10 am

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It never occurred to me until later that my statement would be considered VERY rude. It was, from my perspective a compliment, BUT not according to everyone else. I have improved over time and decreased the frequency of my faux pas(plural :oops: ) I still do make mistakes and am a work in progress.

I have since analyzed both compliments and insults to endeavor to match the socially accepted definitions. I don't think it will ever come naturally, but I'm trying.
One of the things I learned as I was researching Asperger's to learn about my grandson, was this: Saying what is inside is not easy and many times I have seen where others have said they find that expression through other people's words.

This is that moment for me. It really is true for me as well. In another thread I mentioned how I have blown golden opportunities by NOT understanding how things come out of me. However, I am still quite ignorant of that reality for myself. I'm a work waiting to be in progress.

I am not an ineloquent person. I have quite the vocabulary. But, when it comes to getting what's inside of me outside, well, it's just all sideways.

My best description of myself is this: "The Professor runs around in my head, but Gilligan is all that comes out."


Yes, I suffer from foot in mouth disease.


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21 Dec 2015, 9:56 am

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Yes, I suffer from foot in mouth disease.
Sigh...I wish most times I could stop with just the foot......


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21 Dec 2015, 10:34 am

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Does anyone sometimes provoke a shocked response when you don't show the expected level of deference to authority figures like doctors or other official "experts"?


Most Doctors, Police Officers and the like, tend to be unshockable, it's the result of working in a city with so many Educational Institutes, the Student population is quite large. Then there's all that other stuff that is uniquely Scottish.

The only real deference I've ever shown is to my Family, and our Scottish Clan culture, which is kind of hard to get away from.


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21 Dec 2015, 1:32 pm

zkydz wrote:
goatfish57 wrote:
Yes, I suffer from foot in mouth disease.
Sigh...I wish most times I could stop with just the foot......

LOL, thanks for the laugh


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21 Dec 2015, 4:08 pm

goatfish57 wrote:
Yes, I suffer from foot in mouth disease.


Same here. I don't know if it's entirely a mental disability thing but I'm way too honest. I guess it's good I'm not an extrovert IRL because of this but it still isn't easy. In fact that makes it harder..dont open up enough and then once I do it all spills out so then I might go back to being quiet.



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22 Dec 2015, 8:44 pm

zkydz wrote:
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It never occurred to me until later that my statement would be considered VERY rude. It was, from my perspective a compliment, BUT not according to everyone else. I have improved over time and decreased the frequency of my faux pas(plural :oops: ) I still do make mistakes and am a work in progress.

I have since analyzed both compliments and insults to endeavor to match the socially accepted definitions. I don't think it will ever come naturally, but I'm trying.
One of the things I learned as I was researching Asperger's to learn about my grandson, was this: Saying what is inside is not easy and many times I have seen where others have said they find that expression through other people's words.

This is that moment for me. It really is true for me as well. In another thread I mentioned how I have blown golden opportunities by NOT understanding how things come out of me. However, I am still quite ignorant of that reality for myself. I'm a work waiting to be in progress.

I am not an ineloquent person. I have quite the vocabulary. But, when it comes to getting what's inside of me outside, well, it's just all sideways.

My best description of myself is this: "The Professor runs around in my head, but Gilligan is all that comes out."


Very well said :D

many of us struggle with this issue, none of us are alone facing this challenge...though it certainly can feel like it

all the best to you and yours :D



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22 Dec 2015, 9:03 pm

I'm familiar with that kind of faux pas, too. Often, when praising someone or something, I've been worried I needed to say something more substantial than a simple qualification and hastily turned it into a comparison. An example that comes to mind is, "That tastes better than it smells". Bad idea. I had to learn the hard way comparisons are a prime can of worms.


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22 Dec 2015, 10:24 pm

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"That tastes better than it smells". Bad idea. I had to learn the hard way comparisons are a prime can of worms.
You know what's funny is that I've always noticed that the strongest smelling foods are generally the best tasting. And it is so in other cultures as well. The Scots/Irish/English: Anything with boiled cabbage. The Chinese: Stinky Tofu and Durian fruit. The French: Some of those cheeses are really bad! They don't call smelly feet "cheesy" for no reason. And the list goes on. I did see someone once say something really offensive once though (for once not me). I had a young Chinese man who worked with me on a project. Another was a woman from India. He brought in some food to eat before work one day and the woman came in and, in the loudest voice possible say, "What is that horrible smell? It smells like feet!!" He got up and walked away. She asked what his problem was and I told her that she insulted his food. I wanted to ask her how wonderful her food smells to other cultures, but for once, I held back.

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.....I don't know if it's entirely a mental disability thing but I'm way too honest. I guess it's good I'm not an extrovert.....
Gotten me into trouble with work situations before when I've bluntly called a vice president or two on their crap, so, yeah, it does happen and usually not for the better.
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Very well said :D

many of us struggle with this issue, none of us are alone facing this challenge...though it certainly can feel like it

all the best to you and yours :D
Thank you. Took me weeks to put that thought together. It was sparked in another thread. And, as I am prone to do, it circulates forever in my head in my 'practice conversations' until it has the opportunity to come out.
But, right now, it's difficult as my family (Parents mainly, but others too) as they just don't seem to understand or want to understand. I got a bit scolded for "overreacting" tonight. When I tried to say that someone had just moved into my work area and started moving everything and it was ruining my organization (wrapping presents) I was told I was overreacting and I needed to "Drop it". I feel like going into my Mom's kitchen while she's cooking and just start moving things around on her and then ask how she likes it. But, at least at 55, I can restrain myself from 'proving the point'. But, it really ticked me off.

And, it also gets to the point that was made above about how we come across. I thought I was just explaining why it bumfuzzled me to have that happen. Apparently I am not as 'something or another' as I should be by other people's standards.


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23 Dec 2015, 5:50 am

Cooking odors, ughh, don't get me started. At work, I would go out for a walk. At home, an elderly neighbor stunk up the hall with cabbage everyday while I was trying to sell my apartment. Just the tip of the iceberg.

Good luck with all of your family gatherings and have a happy holiday.


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