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Hello you, "perfectly calm"
When you don't like what someone says, why do write stereotypes in another place, addressed to other people, stereotype built upon lies about "how AS think about NTs"

Are you afraid to talk to that precise person who told the thing that irritated you? Because that is precisely the person who could best talk with you.
- If one AS tells something, should all AS take the responsibility of explaining why and how ?
- If one NT tells something, should all NTs take the responsibility of explaining why and how?
... all this without knowing really the person's why and how.

(By the way, we ALL have different genes, that is what makes the planet interesting)

Yes, there is a certain percentage similarity between
Chimps and Human - 98%
Black / white / yellow humans - ....%
NT and AS - ...%
You and your Neighbour - ...%
You and your Parents/children - ...%

What are genes if there is no understanding, acceptance and then love to create the future?

Who says there isn't?

NT and AS aren't the two only human species on the planet, you know. There are various other mental conditions/disorders/diseases too that make a person non-NT but not AS.

There is not always will to understand, acceptance and then love:

When you create categories, and you put a label on groups of people who are similar and you oppose it to groups of people who are different,
(on what criteria do you base on ? color? clever/disabled? poor/rich ? NT/AS ? sport/art lovers?)

When you create stereotypes or believe those stereotypes
(which separate people and replaces understanding with unquestioned common belief)

When you try to have people believe that the said "groups" are normal or not normal
(what is normality, variety is normality)

When you propagate the idea that this other group hates our group,
(which creates fear)

when you separate majorities and minorities
(power game),

=> that way you don't allow any will to understand the person you meet,
no will to understand the person (as a person not as part of a stereotype) allow no acceptance,
no acceptance allow no love.

(Groups do NOT exist. It is a creation of our brain that uses categorization and simplification in order to spend less time in understanding and in order to memorize quicker.)

Isn't that what you are doing when you act like you know what every aspie in the world thinks?

I haven't written any stereotypes. Neither has the OP. Noting a behavior one has seen in an internet forum is not "writing a stereotype".

When you don't like what someone says, why do write stereotypes in another place, addressed to other people, stereotype built upon lies about "how AS think about NTs"

Are you afraid to talk to that precise person who told the thing that irritated you? Because that is precisely the person who could best talk with you.
- If one AS tells something, should all AS take the responsibility of explaining why and how ?
- If one NT tells something, should all NTs take the responsibility of explaining why and how?
... all this without knowing really the person's why and how.

(By the way, we ALL have different genes, that is what makes the planet interesting)[/quote]
Technically, we only have 4 nucleic acids: G, T, C, A.

It is the arrangement of these 4 nucleic acids that create the gene sequences that are expressed. Hence terms like, "Humans and Chimps 'Genes' are 98% identical."

The misnomer there is not the amount of shared genes, but the arrangement of genomes and how they are expressed. Otherwise, while sharing many traits, there are very obvious differences.

I also think that while NT's are most definitely individuals and I see no adherence to a hive mind at all, they are more homogeneous in makeup than ND's are. This is buttressed by the brain scans done that show a great deal of uniformity in the NT brain activations and wirings while there is no conformity with NDs. But, that does not mean they are not individuals.[/quote]

I would never say what an AS or NT thinks, it is impossible because they all think different things and i don't know them all.

If you read my post: i am saying that it is impossible that any AS or NT would think anything described in the topic (unless mentally ret*d):

The topic starts with:
"A lot of Aspies seem to think that no NT lives with their parents after the age of 18, all have one interest which is parties, alcohol and sex, hate anything to do with education, are married with kids by age 22, and are all emotionally well-adjusted."

Why do i say it is impossible that any AS or NT would think anything described in this topic ?

* "no NT lives with their parents after the age of 18" & ""all NT are married with kids by age 22"
Could any AS or NT think something so unrealistic:
suddenly at the age of 19, 98% of the population leave their parents if they have not yet
none of them are single after the age of 22

* "NT all have one interest which is parties, alcohol and sex"
Could any AS or NT think something so unrealistic:
98% of the population would drink and make love as exclusive spare time activity, which means almost nobody would travel, go to sport activities, watch television, etc.
In 98% of the population, all those who work and study a lot are not interested at all in their job or studies. "

* "NT are all emotionally well-adjusted"
This one, it is possible some AS or NT think it
I personally don't.

In summary, you are not "noting a behaviour". You are actively supporting the lying stereotype described in the topic of this thread about "How Aspies think".
I think everybody have its own interesting thoughts, i don't know them. But i am happy when you give me yours.

No. When a person says that it seems to them that some aspies on this forum think this (and it can, since you can look around and find people saying exactly this) it does not constitute a stereotype anymore. If you believe it does, I think you may not understand what a stereotype actually is. That's not an insult to your intelligence by the way. It just means you perhaps aren't clear on a particular concept.

Especially since it's a pretty clear (to me, at least) exaggeration for dramatic effect rather than a statement of fact.

I'll leave it to Joe90 to address what you're saying about her post. But when you say "nobody believes this" and mean that literally, you are presuming to know what others think. That behavior in particular offends me personally, because it is arrogantly presumptuous towards me and everyone else.

Now, I don't believe you're doing that on purpose. A lot of us (aspies) have difficulty with expressing and understanding things when they're stated in the fashion of that first post. It's easy to misread the intent and meaning. So I believe you have good intent here but might be missing important information. Still, I don't give people a free pass for doing so repeatedly after this has been explained. Please, consider if you may have misunderstood what's being expressed here.

I maintain that this topic as a shameful lying stereotype about "What AS think".

That is up to you. I have already expressed why I believe you are wrong to do so only to have you repeat yourself as if I had said nothing at all, so there is little point in restating it yet again.

This is not adressed to you personnally, AJisHere, this is a forum.

It is a warning for people who arrive on this thread, read the topic and feel ashamed for all AS on a wrong basis because of the lying stereotype developped in the topic victimazing "the NTs" and putting shame on "the AS".

Read my post at the top of page 4. No one is saying all AS think this way. We know some NTs hold negative stereotypes about Aspies. That's a bad thing. But this thread, specifically, is addressing how some Aspies hold negative stereotypes about NTs, and how that's ALSO a bad thing.

There will always be some negative stereotype somewhere from someone. Stereotypes can be a bad thing if it leads to predjudice of any sort.

On my lunch break yesterday I saw the first few pages of this thread and considered a response, but, as my break time is short, I had to get back to work! Seeing some of the conflict that has developed since then, I’m hesitant to reply, but I do appreciate the chance to share my thoughts, so [deep breath] here goes…

I have noticed some people on this site referring to some/many/most/all NTs as dumb, unable or unwilling to think for themselves, wanting to fit in at almost any cost (which may also lead them to live in hypocrisy), and insincere/facetious.

I think it’s wise to give anyone you don't know very well the benefit of the doubt: they are multi-dimensional individuals, likely have good intentions; and may know more/be more intelligent that you might realize. Thinking things over, I noticed that I often tell people who are unfamiliar with ASD/AS, etc., very much the same sorts of things about my students.

The Valley Girl who tells the socially awkward kid to get lost.