Aspies and lying

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I'm not really sure he is a jerk out of being a jerk. After I started beating him he started treating me alot better,he was really abusive until I started defending myself. Nowadays he tries to compensate by giving me a nice car and a good life.He pays for my apartment and tries to help me out,I can't really say he is a huge jerk because he has gotten a lot better after I explain to him how his behavior affected me as a child. My dad just couldn't give me life advice because he doesn't really understand people if that makes sense.My father shaped who I am as a person today and whether it was due to his autism or not doesn't really matter. A child doesn't know that his dad potentially has autism,all he knows is that the man doesn't show empathy and maybe I subconsciously tried to emulate him.Nowadays he is pretty passive but it is still hard as hell to relate to the guy.He doesn't really get as defensive as he used to because I think he has learned with age that things aren't always cut and dry. I know that I lack empathy but I can read body language subconsciously.My family is of latin American background so our cultural norms are different. I feel like In America when parents find out little billy has autism they just let their son use autism as an excuse for inappropriate behaviors.The user that posted that BS about my dad shooting his own flesh,or that sexual abuse victims are at fault really rubbed me the wrong way.When people say well autistic people are people and people can be good or bad,I can't say I necessarily agree with them. No neurotypical person fantasizes about killing people,or sees killing others as a justifiable way of solving problems.If a person thinks about killing,they are simply not neurotypicals.So we can't really say normal people think about killing others because if the person thinks about killing others than they are no longer normal. Not all killers are autistic(most aren't) but ALL killers are NOT neurotypicals. There is always an underlying condition.

I am not even for sure a NPD I could very well be asperger's why does it even matter if I am struggling in my life anyways?The only reason you feel empathy for others with asperger's is because you have it yourself,this is not empathy. If you felt empathy you wouldn't be calling me a troll right now.I am profoundly insulted that you are calling me a troll when I am trying to gain information to improve my life. Quite frankly,I could careless about your defensiveness to protect your little feelings. I am not here to beat around the bush I am here to gain insight about my personal life so that I can change it.You make it seem like your Asperger's is a free licence to bully/intimidate people,and when you offend someone you just say "Oh I just misinterpreted what you said",how convenient huh?

No I am accusing you not other autistics,no I am not backed into a corner. I gave you psychological definitions and linked you articles so you could discredit them. I backed you into a corner because you are getting emotional because I don't want to give you a license/free pass to abuse people as you wish. Why do you deserve more sympathy from anyone?

I have had many friends with asperger's you are clearly just using your condition as an excuse to be vile and you know it. Now quit trying to bully me because it is not going to work and go back to doing some research on empathy. I linked a video with stick figures so I know for sure you will understand. If you felt empathy you would not be making these disgusting,vile, and insulting posts. You insult me and everyone else with a disorder by justifying your reprehensible behavior with diagnosis. I am not your mother or your father and it is not my responsibility to make sure your feelings aren't hurt.I provide you facts and reasoning while you attack me ferociously and viscously.

No I am accusing you not other autistics,no I am not backed into a corner. I gave you psychological definitions and linked you articles so you could discredit them. I backed you into a corner because you are getting emotional because I don't want to give you a license/free pass to abuse people as you wish. Why do you deserve more sympathy from anyone?

I have had many friends with asperger's you are clearly just using your condition as an excuse to be vile and you know it. Now quit trying to bully me because it is not going to work and go back to doing some research on empathy. I linked a video with stick figures so I know for sure you will understand. If you felt empathy you would not be making these disgusting,vile, and insulting posts. You insult me and everyone else with a disorder by justifying your reprehensible behavior with diagnosis. I am not your mother or your father and it is not my responsibility to make sure your feelings aren't hurt.I provide you facts and reasoning while you attack me ferociously and viscously.

And there you go again. That is trolling.

You are not here to find any truth. People are telling you that they can feel other people's or animal's troubles. You are saying they're lying by telling them that they cannot feel.

You are not gaining insight. You only seem to be feeding your need to be 'right' without logic. Twisting definitions to suit your purposes is the opposite of gaining insight.

Kinda noticed you dropped the BS about changing definitions. That is not a change in position. That is just being backed into a corner, not insight.

And, it is not convenient to have interpretation issues. What shows the BS at work here is that people who understand that, will work with someone and find another way to explain it. Then there are no interpretation issues.

And, I do not see it as a way to intimidate of bully people. What the hell makes you even think that? I have given you no information at all about me. You know nothing about me, or really anybody else here for that matter. But you accuse me and other autistics that we use it as an excuse?

Again, this thread should be locked because you are only seeking attention.

1.) you were accusing aspies of using their disaability long before I entered into this BS.
2.) I gave proper definitions and have not attacked you, you give youtube as a guide? You ive blogs as a guide? I gave blogs, definitions and sources. Instead of actually using somehting other than you attacking aspies in general, you just don't like that you have no logic behind your thoughts.
3.) An attack would be characteriszed as "Jane, you ignorant slut!" Did nothing of the sort.
4.) I have no free license, what the hell makes you even think that?

Nobody is bullying you Jane. See the difference? THAT would be bullying.

But, coming in here, telling everybody how much you hate aspies because of your father shows you have an axe to grind. The fact that you are using youtube, that grand bastion of truth and advertising, kinda says a lot. Try Mirriam webster:

Oh wait...
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/empathy
the feeling that you understand and share another person's experiences and emotions : the ability to share someone else's feelings

Or:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sympathy
the feeling that you care about and are sorry about someone else's trouble, grief, misfortune, etc. : a sympathetic feeling

That one has a lot of different meanings. But none of them are different from what I have posted before.

Use a real source the next time you want to actually make a point. Don't use other people's opinions that just happen to jibe with yours.
What's next? Emot-a-pedia?

1.) you were accusing aspies of using their disaability long before I entered into this BS.
2.) I gave proper definitions and have not attacked you, you give youtube as a guide? You ive blogs as a guide? I gave blogs, definitions and sources. Instead of actually using somehting other than you attacking aspies in general, you just don't like that you have no logic behind your thoughts.
3.) An attack would be characteriszed as "Jane, you ignorant slut!" Did nothing of the sort.
4.) I have no free license, what the hell makes you even think that?

Nobody is bullying you Jane. See the difference? THAT would be bullying.

But, coming in here, telling everybody how much you hate aspies because of your father shows you have an axe to grind. The fact that you are using youtube, that grand bastion of truth and advertising, kinda says a lot. Try Mirriam webster:

Oh wait...
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/empathy
the feeling that you understand and share another person's experiences and emotions : the ability to share someone else's feelings

Or:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sympathy
the feeling that you care about and are sorry about someone else's trouble, grief, misfortune, etc. : a sympathetic feeling

That one has a lot of different meanings. But none of them are different from what I have posted before.

Use a real source the next time you want to actually make a point. Don't use other people's opinions that just happen to jibe with yours.
What's next? Emot-a-pedia?

I am not going to argue with a person that does not feel empathy on what empathy is. I am done arguing with you,clearly you don't have the mental faculties to process simple psychological concepts. You do not get to define what the DMV says to make your miniature ego feel better.Aspies never admit they are wrong I get it,but I no longer have the patience to debate with you. This is not going anywhere and your mind cannot grasp it,I don't know what to tell you.I wish I was trolling to be completely honest with you,I have a hard life and have a family full of people with disorders that cannot offer me any type of support. I am sorry that you need to argue meaningless things with people to feel better about yourself,I am done here. There is nothing funny about my life situation and quite frankly you would be arguing just the same if I told you I was an aspie(i very well could be). These labels don't mean anything to me,all I know is that I need to fix my life and that it isn't others responsibility to do that. Keep telling yourself what ever you need to keep your sense of self intact,but at the end of the day the world isn't going to change to accomedate you.It simply is what it is. I really wish I was trolling though,because I wouldn't wish this horrible condition on my worse enemy.

See, this is why people are thinking you're a troll. You come in here, claiming to be non-autistic, and then have the audacity to tell us what we are, whether we have or have not empathy, and argue over what the word even means. Why does it matter? Is your purpose to get into dictionary wars? Your example of empathy was when a person cries when someone else cries, because they feel what they feel. I've done that. I cry when my wife cries. I cry when hungry kids and beaten puppies come on TV. I'm a veritable waterworks. I've already pointed out that the Theory of Mind/lack of empathy concept is just one theory, and it is not universally accepted.

You say you know a lot of Asperger people in real life? Earlier it was just one suspected Asperger, your Dad, with whom you clearly have had a very bad relationship with. It sounds a lot like you have an ax to grind. You ask why we lie. You ask why people self-diagnose when it ruins things for "real" autistics. You accuse zkydz of not being raised properly when you don't know the guy from Adam. You call us unable to grasp what you're saying or admit it when we are wrong. We grasp it perfectly, we just think you're being insulting and spoiling for a fight.

Look, if you want to come in here seeking answers about your possibly Asperger dad (or yourself) or looking for support for your family situation, this is a good place to come. If you come in here accusing everybody and lecturing us about what you think we are, then expect us to talk back. And talk. And talk. We love to talk. Did I say we love to talk?