How Serious Is Autism To You?

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I want TMS so badly, but haven't found any way to get it.



Yeah, you know I'm with you on this! Before anyone less familiar with my views chimes in, I'm very much on the high-functioning end of the spectrum and I hate it. f*****g hate it.

It has completely ruined every aspect of my life,

nuff said,

if i was driving at 200 kph over the crest of a hill, and i then suddenly saw a heavy steel posted sign in the middle of the road that said "AUTISM!! !", it would be a very serious situation.

but seriously, everyone gets over everything normally.
people who go to prison for life who are initially mortified, find their routine within six months and can be seen smiling again.
people who win a $100 million lottery are ecstatic for a while, but within six months, they can be seen to be frowning in displeasure about something or another.

people who become paralyzed (like christopher reeve for example) find their middle ground as well, and come back to some sort of normalcy in their mindsets within about 6 months.

so i have always had autism and it is just the way i live. i know nothing else and i just do my best to integrate with the world where i have to, and i can deal with other people in my daily affairs and go home and be by myself and enjoy the feeling of breathing.

whatever.

I'm glad to have it, though I understand those that have more severe forms would want to be free.
Neurotypicals are a nightmare to me.
I feel as if I'm in Ravenloft (a horror film), but at least I can ignore them - they can't understand that.

I had a girl ask me "Are you ignoring me?"
LOL that must have been the very first retorical question in history (I bet that is how they discovered retorical questions!).

This is an important discussion - indeed to us late dxéd.
It is very easy to fall for all those "AH, we´ve all got experiences like that" - reactions. The point is, that most people still have a standardized picture of autistics: The non-verbal, isolated headbanger - not the well formulated and in small fora socially well functioning adult.

How serious? Personally?
I´m in the mild end, but still I haven´t been able to hold down a job for long and never got to use my education:
I blew it in ordinary jobs because I don´t get social games and signals and imprecise language.
Social fear, sensory problems (sound and balance) and anxiety/depressions have played a role too.

Yes. Most people do experience things like these too, one by one - but the difference is the combination and the constancy of it.

It is pretty serious even on the mild end of the spectrum, if it disrupts your possibilities in life.
I know of danish successful notabilities, who are aspies too, but their self-esteem and drive didn´t seem to suffer.

Oh yeah, I kind of figured out I needed to have my own business. Before I discovered what I had.

Funny thing was after my first 'social' job, I figured that next time I would not discuss any personal things with co-workers & keep a very strict boundary between work & home life. You can imagine how much they hated me for it. No matter how well I did the job.
One day it was "how late are you working?" (harrassment/jealousy) because I was doing 6 days a week at the beginning.
Then it became "are you leaving already?" (harrassment/jealousy) Because I cut my hours down to save my sanity.

I'm mild Aspergers. My attitudes weird. I dont look at as autism spectrum or any neurovariance as neccesarily a disorder. I think it depends upon the individual case and whether it works for you. In my case I'd rather be less of an aspie, but thats mainly because as a comorbid socio I get the main bonus of a brain not controlled by other peoples feelings anyway. I completely hate the sensory processing disorder s**t. Otherwise I'd rather be aspie than NT if I wasn't socio. Better to fight at a social disadvantage than be a pawn of the species

I think it's worth remembering that most neurotypicals aren't very high functioning either. I mean have you met many of these people??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjz16xjeBAA

Neurotypical Spectrum disorder (NuTS) is a very serious condition and compassionate people should hope science discovers a cure for this terrible affliction soon

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^^ Call the Scientologists for bleach enemas

Something today I realized about neurodiversity and irony. Severe autism may be the result of autistic genes getting too concentrated. Why do they get concentrated so easily? Humans are incredibly inbred by the standards of other species. A chimpanzee tribe has more genetic distance between two cousins, maybe even siblings than an African has compared to a Argentinian native American. So the absence of diversity seems to be the reality!

I like to keep up with medical breakthroughs and research into disease. Autism is not the only issue, schizophrenia, ADD, bipolar, paralysis, inherited physical disorders! They all must go! I feel glad hearing news about donations to medical research such as what the Zuckerburgs recently did, donating 3 billion specifically to multiple organizations working on treating diseases in general. Alzheimers/dementia is a coming concern with longevity and an aging population, this will be a tough nut to crack and in some cases even affects the brain more than autism on the macroscopic level. (Autistic brains show no gross abnormalities like lesions or missing chunks with exception to severe forms that cause epilepsy and so on, all the differences are in how the brain is connected or neuron quality/formation)

True neurodiversity will come about when humans are truly diverse, and different ways of thinking and viewing the world come to fruition. We must not include disability in this dream for the future! TMS looks like a good treatment but it still needs to be refined. Other drugs and genetic therapies need more support, but there are those who would oppose it to the end. Why not create some ice bucket challenge for autism? Or even further, an ice bucket challenge for neurodisorders so others like schizophrenics and the brain damaged also have inclusion? I feel the balance of power between the neurotribe book readers and those like ourselves have become more even, we only need tip the scales further in our direction. Let our voices be heard! I would take Sue Rubin any day over Temple Grandin as an inspiration! But who got her Ted talk? Someone is backing one side too much, we must back ours!

I don't think you are aware you are part of the problem, so am I, so are neurotypicals. The whole world has problems because of many people doing things. Stop acting like you are above the fray, and judging by your post you need to invest more in acknowledging the viewpoints of other people, even ones that are untrue as they reveal so much about the diversity humans have.

You don't seem to be a case of sour grapes, but of someone who doesn't know what they are missing. Socialization is not some stupid thing neurotypicals do, it is like a vulcan mind meld that allows the release of pleasure chemicals and also allows people to engage with eachother and gain pleasure therefrom. When they chit chat about the weather, the weather doesn't matter, it is a very human ritual that allows the exchange of non-verbal cues to bond and give and recieve messages. It is like roleplaying as part of sex, and sex is a very human and natural thing. Asexuals sometimes know that they are missing out on a very beautiful thing while others just go "lol what is the big deal?" but they have no idea what it is to experience it and why they keep doing it. THEY ENJOY IT AND IT IS MEANINGFUL.




There is a difference between a true deep interest and an autistic interest. The former involves actual engagement with it and enjoying the ups and downs, the deep details but also the whole picture. The latter is more of a fetish that is very specific while missing out on romance, it involves more collection of trivia and endless monologues, it is impassionate and impermanent, it drains and drains. Gambling addiction and special interests are very similar while a neurotypical who raises horses and enjoys horseriding feels a true bond with what they do.

The guy you mentioned seems like a gambling addict, that is a form of special interest neurotypicals can have.

Some point me at female autistic special interests like reading fantasy books or fairy tales, well I know one who is like that. She has little interest in the fine details nor can give a deep interpretation of the themes of said books. Everything is absolutely concrete with her when she reads it. It is a literal story and that is the end of it. Thank god I have some capacity to read a work if I force myself to sit through it (which is very hard considering my aspergers) and still be able to come up with a deep opinion.

"Some point me at female autistic special interests like reading fantasy books or fairy tales, well I know one who is like that. She has little interest in the fine details nor can give a deep interpretation of the themes of said books.Everything is absolutely concrete with her when she reads it. It is a literal story and that is the end of it.
Thank god I have some capacity to read a work if I force myself to sit through it (which is very hard considering my aspergers) and still be able to come up with a deep opinion".

Don´t fall for stereotypes.

For example - the test where they ask you to remember 3 items than ask you to tell a story or listen to a story (which is VERY SHORT) and then they ask you the 3 items... I can't do it. The items don't stay in my head - HOWEVER after the fact the items MAY in fact be recorded to memory for later recall... or not.

My LONG term memory is forever. I have memories of being an infant.

There is a correlation between dementia and autism in older age, also symptoms can get worse when we get older. If any of you guys think autism is a gift, well take a good look at what will happen when you get older. You need to take this more seriously! Unless being put into a psychiatric hospital at the age of 50 until you die sounds like a nice retirement plan, you need to abandon this neurodiversity nonsense and realize the real medical ramifications of this very real disease, not difference!

Is mild ASD associated with higher risk of demnentia in older age?

Well, I'm very high-functioning... and still hate this s**t and would gladly be rid of it.

I may have problems with imagining my life without my autism. Fixative interests and stimming may look as something pleasant and positive for a person. But they can be socially inappropriate or make you really ineffective, which can be significant obstacle in occupational area.