self dignosed attention whores

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like i say i agree to you. yeah that is a honest stantment i made. honestly i am doing a Intro to Social Services certificate at the moment and in my personal development paper it has taught me a lot about how we can't love other people untill we love our selves first.

methinks this thread should be locked now... any Mods about?

The OP is most likely saying what he is thinking; it’s wrong when it’s applied to anyone other than himself, but sometimes it’s hard to see both sides of the coin when you constantly get one instead of the other in life.

This person claims he is not superior to anyone else, which is true. However, he seems to have been fed a lot of BS about Asperger's syndrome from people who don't really know what it's about. He seems to have only heard the autistic stereotypes, such as all autistic people are mentally ret*d, emotionless, freaks who will never amount to anything except sitting in the corner rocking and memorizing phone books. It seems that he has come to believe that he is worthless and inferior to everyone else, and therefore the people who tell him he is a socially ret*d f**k-up, must be right. He may believe that because "he is inferior" to everyone else, other people must be smart enough for them to know whats best. The autistic stereotypes, that I mentioned before, are out-dated and have long since be proven untrue. Let me also point out, that around the time these stereotypes were thought to be true, so was the idea that mentally ret*d people did not ahve the right to state their opinions, because they are too stupid to make judgements and decisions. So, if this person wants to go on believing these out-dated stereotypes and believing he is mentally ret*d, then what gives him the right to state his opinion and decide who is autistic and who is not? If he wants to believe these ideas, than he will have to listen to my opinion and consider it true, because I have a high I.Q and therefore "I must be right". So here is my opinion: People with Asperger's syndrome are not worthless social ret*ds and it is the people who fed him this BS who are the ignorant idiots! I do not know very much about this person, but I think he needs to re-think the opinions he holds about himself, and consider the possibility that they are just a pack of lies fed to him by incompetent doctors who went to medical school in the Middle Ages. It is his decision if he wants to be cured or not, but I think he should decide if he really is a stupid f**k-up and needs to be cured, or that maybe this is just the opinion of a bunch of ignorant idiots with no real understanding of autism. I think this person needs to stop equating self-worth simply by how social someone is. Being socially incompetent can indeed cause a lot of trouble, but there are still many things that someone can be good at, other than socializing. And lastly, I am not superior no matter how high my I.Q is and my opinion is not necessarily worth more than the opinions of the doctors who diagnosed him. However, more times than not, I think one will find that the opinion of someone who is not a doctor, but has read a lot on the subject of autism, will have an opinion worth just as much as a doctor's opinion.

Last edited by ChrissandraChrissamba on 11 May 2007, 11:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Aspie17- I'm diagnosed with Aspergers. Your writing leads me to believe you are low spectrum or HFA and not Aspergers. For one thing you don't write well nor spell well. Most Aspies have an high IQ and its the HFA that tend to have lower IQ. I do agree I wish I had never been born like this and wish there was a true cure. However I'm super high IQ, a social ret*d and yes, I can spell.

I think the majority of self diagnosed will eventually wind up with a diagnosis and I think most are not attention seeking. The ones being misdiagnosed are the ones I worry about. Mainly that is the tendency with the psychs to label all pain in the butt children as Aspies these days. The older people that self diagnose for the most part probably are on the spectrum.

Word to the wise don't come on here with only 6 posts under your belt and jump on the many THOUSANDS who have been long time members. Personally I think you are an immature teen boy who is borderline trolling. Being nice to others will get your further.

You CAN have a low IQ. Maybe even in the high 80s! The AVERAGE ASpie is SMARTER than average person simply because of the floor, if for no other reason. You can't be a blithering idiot, etc.... however. Apparantly the high 80s is still considered normal range. Frankly, the thing I hate WORST about what that guy said was the lies about AS people being idiots, etc... The idea that people like myself are using it as an excuse comes second. In my case, by the way, the claim that I am using it as an excuse is ludicrous.

Steve

How is exactly the range for low, normal and high IQ?
I had a IQ test a few months ago, not an online test but a paper test, and I got one in the 90s and I thought I was low, and now I see that 90 is in the normal range

Not everyone is “enlightened”, not everyone has the ability to get there, not everyone wants to get there, not everyone will get there at the same time; and some like me don’t even understand enlightenment.

If the OP sees himself as useless to modern society, good for him; he’s just projecting his own self onto others because he’s unable to see past his own black and white thinking: autistic disorders equates to useless like me, and if you don’t see yourself as useless well then you aren’t disordered like me, or if I think you're not worthless compared to me you aren't disordered either....

The stereotypes for autistic disorders are there for a reason: people see your objective achievements and compare them to the majority and that’s when you’re placed into a group that’s thought of as less.

ChrissandraChrissamba; I'd easily fit into what you see as the stereotypes of autism, perhaps this individual is like me in his objective achievements...the difference is that I try and see your side as well as mine.

Last edited by Danielismyname on 11 May 2007, 10:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.

140 = gifted
100 = average
75 mentally ret*d

the words idiot and moron also refer to spefici IQs.. i believe idiot = 60 and moron<50 not sure though

whatever the natural variance arounds those... im not sure either

and I just thought below 100 was low

dictionaries rule ^_^

The latest I've heard on IQ is below 80 is considered ret*d. 120 is NOW the current average in America. Used to be 100. Genius levels keep changing since the standardized IQ testing has changed several times. I was told I was genius level at 165 when I was tested at 11 yrs old. The most intelligent person in the world is still considered to be Marilyn vos Savant with IQ of 320. Einstein's IQ was said to be 165 as a means of comparison. I wonder if Marilyn is an Aspie? She seems very friendly and socialable so it appears she's not.

why do you all use nt as a insult if woke up normal this mornig it would be the happyist day of my life by the way my iq is 88 and 90 on some tests

I don’t, I recognize that I’m the one who is different to the majority (even here); but I’d dare not speculate on whether I’d like to be something I’m not…, I’m only unhappy when I’m around the majority, when I’m by myself I’m subjectively happy; perhaps back in high school (the environment I didn’t belong to) I may’ve had thoughts of wanting to fit in and interact, to achieve how my peers were, but a lot of the time I just wished that they’d understand me how I understood them…I left said environment and I found happiness on the land and within myself....

When you're so different to those around you you have to find happiness yourself...they ain't going to give it to you.

Threads like this are great. "My life is harder than yours, so you are faking, and in doing so taking attention away from me!"

So many ways that the OP could be countered that it isn't even worth the time or the effort.

all your problems are your own fault your just a emo who has no social skills not because your autistic but because you choose not to talk to people i try to talk to people but cant why dont you start makeing eye contact and go talk to someone because you dont want to be a so called nt you want to be special why dont you find some other disorder to pretend to have