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19 Nov 2016, 8:20 pm

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In my personal experience, they still give you medication if your depression is environmental.


Of course they do. Most of them don't really care that much what they give you. I used to see them all the time.



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19 Nov 2016, 8:21 pm

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I want to let everyone know depression is no longer thought to be a "chemical imbalance" - this has been debunked. It's cause is not known.


Did you want to cite any references for that? Or is it a personal testimonial?



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20 Nov 2016, 1:12 am

bethannny wrote:
I want to let everyone know depression is no longer thought to be a "chemical imbalance" - this has been debunked. It's cause is not known.


It's neither bunk or debunked..It is through documented research and testimonials about people who had CD took some type of SSRIs or SNRIs and corrected their problem.



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20 Nov 2016, 2:42 am

I didn't know clinical depression was permanent.



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20 Nov 2016, 8:45 am

We are tossing around terms without defining them, or with different people's definitions not matching each other. I'll throw my own opinions into the mix.

First, "clinical" depression simply means depression that is serious enough to need some help from a medical or psychological provider. That differentiates it from a "down" mood that everyone experiences from time to time.

Clinical depression can be either environmental/situational in cause, or biological in cause. And of course, sometimes it can be both.

Clinical depression is not permanent, but a predisposition or tendency to get depression is permanent. So you can get better from the clinical depression, but it's recommended that you try to prevent another episode. For some people that means staying on medication long-term, but for other people it means therapy to teach you better ways of coping or help you interact with people in a healthier way.

I hope these definitions help.


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20 Nov 2016, 10:09 am

bethannny wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
In my personal experience, they still give you medication if your depression is environmental.


Of course they do. Most of them don't really care that much what they give you. I used to see them all the time.


These doctors just wanna over medicate you because the more drugs they give you and the many times you have to come back makes more money for them in co pays. When my iron was low I used to have to come back every few months to get my iron looked at. After I beat anemia I am back on once a year xD



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20 Nov 2016, 11:55 am

Developing major depression years ago was more a combination of many problems for me, though I do believe that an ongoing lack of purpose is still akin to the icing on that miserable cake and definitely one of the more visible thoughts one can still identify in the grip of depression. It is an unsustainable belief, and it's all about this issue with the stupid 'formula' we have shoved down our throats by the media and our cultures, that lives have to follow the pattern: job+house+marriage+kids, etc... Looking back to my childhood years, which held some sexual abuse, and then the whole swathe of school problems with bullying and not connecting, and finally my latter college years where I developed bulimia followed by anorexia, it surprises me that I'm here at all, but that formula...
I can barely stand the thought of it and indeed, feeling like one has fallen below it's unreasonable expectations of 'normalcy' do lead to a lack of purpose, the beginning of a vicious cycle.


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20 Nov 2016, 1:12 pm

BeaArthur wrote:
We are tossing around terms without defining them, or with different people's definitions not matching each other. I'll throw my own opinions into the mix.

First, "clinical" depression simply means depression that is serious enough to need some help from a medical or psychological provider. That differentiates it from a "down" mood that everyone experiences from time to time.

Clinical depression can be either environmental/situational in cause, or biological in cause. And of course, sometimes it can be both.

Clinical depression is not permanent, but a predisposition or tendency to get depression is permanent. So you can get better from the clinical depression, but it's recommended that you try to prevent another episode. For some people that means staying on medication long-term, but for other people it means therapy to teach you better ways of coping or help you interact with people in a healthier way.

I hope these definitions help.



So some people are just more vulnerable to depression and it can come and go but it doesn't really go away?

My depression is different than most peoples so I could never relate to them so I started to question mine and undiagnosed myself.


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20 Nov 2016, 1:18 pm

League_Girl wrote:
So some people are just more vulnerable to depression and it can come and go but it doesn't really go away?

Yes, some people are more vulnerable to depression.

In some cases, it goes away and never returns.

In some cases, it goes away and it does return.

In some cases, it never goes away completely but it gets more manageable.

If a person has multiple episodes of depression, or if their family members have a lot of depression history, or both, this predicts a return in the future and it may be a reason to stay on antidepressants. Every person is different, though.


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