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When I was diagnosed with aspergers I objected. I knew that aspies are supposed to be bad with metaphors. ( they take everything literally) I have poetry published. The doctor said that you can be an aspie without having every trait. Maybe that's it?

I posted a site of very creative aspies. As a percentage we are more creative then NTs.

Yeah, you don't have to have every trait to fit the criteria.


Citation needed.

You have the right to see yourself as lacking imagination but I don't see you that way. But you have the right to think of yourself in any way you want.

Study: Autism, creativity and divergent thinking may go hand in hand

But you don't know me. It's not how I think of myself, it's a fact - my imagination is significantly impaired and has been all my life. I never had imaginative play - I just lined and grouped objects instead of playing with them, didn't understand when kids pretended, etc. It still causes me problems.

I just lined and grouped objects instead of playing with them,
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Grouping objects is play! I have had my best ideas by grouping ideas and juxtapositioning them. For example, I took a thermodynamic equation and applied it to God. How would an infinite source interact in a finite context? I look at creativity as similar to a child playing with blocks. Lets take this green block and put it against a red block. lets see what happens! maybe it is beautiful ( brilliant!)

Why didn't you link me to the actual study? Two clicks, damn, can't cope with that.

"This is a 98 % inclusion rate for the first phase and 66 % for the second" - that's a lot of exclusions, wonder what's going on with that.

Anyway, the paper was investigating subclinical autism traits (obvious from the title and reading it), not looking at the differences in creativity between people with autism and people without. That's not me criticising the study, just that they were analysing something different than this.

They actually did compare the means of people with an ASD diagnosis vs those without but found no significant difference (top right of page 7, table referenced top of page 8 ).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFods1KSWsQ Both me and " a part of me" are trying to tell you that you are cool. And yet you keep trying to prove us wrong.

Why didn't you link me to the actual study? Two clicks, damn, can't cope with that.
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Because I did not see the read full article tab and thought it was a private pay site.

I used to subscribe to autism supremacist theories a long time ago. I no longer do so because now I realise autism has its advantages and disadvantages.

I consider myself disabled because I am in the eyes of the law (although under the Tory government I don't know how long that will be for...).

What are you on about? What has me being "cool" got to do with this?

IMO, what most people perceive as 'creativity' is just a masterful act of simply taking bits and pieces of existing entities and putting them together in new ways.

therein lies most of the 'originality', though it is very much possible to make things out of scratch, yes.

difficult, albeit very mentally rewarding. i don't believe 'creativity' is more or common in either NT or AS camps, though maybe their methods differ.

Oh really I've never noticed it. [/sarcasm]

Aspies people may have had more original ideas, but NTs produced more ideas. In the world of today, producing more often is what's important. But people also look for more original ideas. Both methods are useful, but for different reasons.

Some NTs think they are superior to AS people. Some AS people think they are superior to NTs. How can both be right?

Also, people say to treat others as you like to be treated. Yes, sometimes NTs treat aspies as inferior. But if Aspies start treating NTs just like that, how can Aspies convince NTs that Aspies can be pleasant people that should be treated equal? Not to mention that NTs outnumber AS by about 100 to 1, so NTs would likely win if upsetted.

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I'm very high functioning, infact it took me a while to even accept the possibility that I have AS. My quirks are mild, I have no more meltdowns than a regular NT (infact probably less). My IQ is probably quite high.
Even though I've struggled to even identify with most AS on here, since joining I've come to realise AS is a spectrum - its different for everyone.
For some it is a real disability, some desire to be more social, to have many friends. Some wish to be NT.
And that is okay.
Please try to understand that others feel differently, they experience AS differently.