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28 May 2007, 12:53 pm

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You must have a different view of what 'suffering from' would mean then. From how I see it, you said yourself that your problems are from living in an NT society. Therefore that is what you suffer from, not AS.


We are going in circles here, Sopho. Every situation has more than one cause, so in that sense we agree. I think I have explained fully and completely why I treat AS rather than "society" as the primary and overriding cause. Feel free to have the last word at this time :lol:



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28 May 2007, 1:00 pm

edit :oops:



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28 May 2007, 1:05 pm

EDITED :D



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28 May 2007, 1:08 pm

oops :oops:
I'll edit that right away
can you edit yours too Soph :P
sorry scrulie



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28 May 2007, 1:09 pm

Kilroy wrote:
oops :oops:
I'll edit that right away
can you edit yours too Soph :P

Done. 8)



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28 May 2007, 1:10 pm

thank you Sophie :mrgreen:



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28 May 2007, 1:22 pm

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Oh goody! Another tw@t!!

He also thinks gay people are fags full of sh**, atheists are 'fagfags' and people who like history are ret*d! LOL!

Wow! What a ducking genius!! :lol:


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28 May 2007, 1:25 pm

scrulie wrote:
Sopho wrote:
scrulie wrote:
Oh goody! Another tw@t!!

He also thinks gay people are fags full of sh**, atheists are 'fagfags' and people who like history are ret*d! LOL!

Wow! What a ducking genius!! :lol:

Yeah! He probably hates cats as well. :P



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28 May 2007, 1:37 pm

he's an ass hole :lol:



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28 May 2007, 6:50 pm

Some1 else pointed out that even if we don't suffer from AS, the people around us will. Less so when aspies are 'part of the scenery' the way gays are in some places, but I think NTs will always feel let down by nature on occasion when it comes to us. Having to deal with a separate mental universe to one's own is painful in a sense; it reminds us that there can be no coherent unity in Reality, with each different life-form essentially unknowable. And when you consider how incomprehensibly vast the 'NT' world is now, you have to ask whether many people will want to expand their understanding much further.



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28 May 2007, 7:12 pm

But why should someone else's comfort level with my condition be any worry of mine? If someone objects to who I am, my pretending to be someone else, while it may comfort them for a time, will only wear me down; and when, as will inevitably happen, my true self pokes through, such a person would then flee, leaving me disappointed at that person's flight, and that person disappointed at my dishonesty.

OTOH, if I'm myself, the people who hang around me are those who aren't going to freak out at my state of being. That's a much nicer way to live, in my opinion. Sure, it means I have a smaller circle of friends - but then, I'd rather know a few people well, than have a bunch of shallow, surface relationships that I miscall "friends"...


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28 May 2007, 7:42 pm

Yes; particularly if one's friends are not of one's own age and/or background, they generally notice less of one's 'neurology' in any case. Also, women who fall for aspies often claim they only see the profundity of the separateness after the early 'buzz' of the relationship wears off.
I've always been a bad actor, but can appreciate that feeling compelled to 'act' excessively must be draining. It would be good if employers could make an effort to 'meet us halfway' in this.

Actually, when I say there's 'no coherent unity in Reality', I realise that really isn't a problem. -For some reason I've always felt tortured by it, but I don't think many other people do (it's not up there with 'does God exist'!)- Infact, some 'NT's have said that they comprehend autistics better than autistics comprehend them.
On the other hand, maybe we're overlooking what we have in common with NTs and other sentient beings in a way that exaggerates the differences. Can we really say that we exist in a separate Reality to theirs?