I'm finally finished with myself, as is my mother.

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10 Nov 2017, 8:37 am

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So do you think maybe you have something like agoraphobia (a type of anxiety disorder in which you fear and avoid places or situations that might cause you to panic and make you feel trapped, helpless or embarrassed)? Have you tried anxiety medication like Xanax? Whenever I take it, it takes the edge off enough so I can go to school or wherever else like the dentist.

I know I have agoraphobia.
I take Ativan and while it does help I'm afraid my tolerance for it has gone up tremendously. I'm scared to ask my doctor for something else though.
Do you think I should?


I think you should trust your doctor with it. An agoraphobia diagnosis would probably make a big difference as far as attendance goes from a legal standpoint if you're medically unable to attend. I know of kids who can't do school. It's not all that uncommon.

Big difference between can't because of medical issues and won't. Has nothing to do with self discipline or whatever. Has nothing to do with being a failure etc. You're just a victim of something beyond your control.

I was put on the next step up from a benzo like Ativan to a SSRI called Celexa. Lots of other brands like Zoloft and Prozac that do the same thing. Some of the side effects while getting used to it sucked, but in the long run it did the job and I don't need it anymore. An ironc thing with anxiety is anxiety over taking meds to help anxiety.

So there is hope in the long run you'll get over this. My doctor said my problem was with brain hormones and combining that with puberty homones was creating a lot of chaos.

I took Zoloft to begin with and the side effects... Weren't pleasant to say the least.
Would you recommend talking to him about celexa? I know it's differs from person to person but it helped you yes?
I'll check again tomorrow if I have an official diagnosis of agoraphobia.


I think I started with Zoloft and was switched to Celexa because of less side effects, not sure. They are both ssri. But the side effects are the worst starting out until you adjust. Just have to get over that hump. But yeah it helped me. So whatever he says I'd go with. I mean you're at rock bottom so nothing to lose.



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10 Nov 2017, 9:50 am

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What is preventing you from going to school?

Do you feel anxious in class? What do you fear in class?

Your mother is right in that respect: many times, the only person who could help you is YOU.

She should probably listen to you more, though.


Myself I suppose. Whenever I go or even think about going I completely shut down. No two days of school have ever been the exact same so it really triggers my OCD.
My OCD and SPD is the biggest problems in class and school in general.
And I know my mother is right. Like I said I just feel unable to do it.



How does OCD affect you in school?


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10 Nov 2017, 10:58 am

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What is preventing you from going to school?

Do you feel anxious in class? What do you fear in class?

Your mother is right in that respect: many times, the only person who could help you is YOU.

She should probably listen to you more, though.


Myself I suppose. Whenever I go or even think about going I completely shut down. No two days of school have ever been the exact same so it really triggers my OCD.
My OCD and SPD is the biggest problems in class and school in general.
And I know my mother is right. Like I said I just feel unable to do it.



How does OCD affect you in school?

When I'm at home I have control over most things.
I have my room to retreat to. I have water to drink every time I feel sick. Etc.
At school I have no idea what is going to happen every day and it drives me crazy.



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10 Nov 2017, 11:43 am

God I feel sick with myself. I thought I felt okay to go today but my mind is getting the better of me...
I've gone for half of the week. Is that good enough to feel proud of myself?
Am I a terrible person for not going?
My head is aching terribly.
I can do today's work from home but is it okay to justify myself like that?
How do I talk to my counselor about agoraphobia? Do I just be blunt and tell him I'm unable to go everyday? Should I wait to talk to him until I get a real therapist?



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10 Nov 2017, 12:10 pm

Masakados wrote:
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What is preventing you from going to school?

Do you feel anxious in class? What do you fear in class?

Your mother is right in that respect: many times, the only person who could help you is YOU.

She should probably listen to you more, though.


Myself I suppose. Whenever I go or even think about going I completely shut down. No two days of school have ever been the exact same so it really triggers my OCD.
My OCD and SPD is the biggest problems in class and school in general.
And I know my mother is right. Like I said I just feel unable to do it.



How does OCD affect you in school?

When I'm at home I have control over most things.
I have my room to retreat to. I have water to drink every time I feel sick. Etc.
At school I have no idea what is going to happen every day and it drives me crazy.


Huh? that sounds like autism. They need to know what is going to happen and they like predictability and dislike change. Unless there is more to the story.

And sometimes autism gets misdiagnosed as OCD but sometimes that diagnoses is correct but the person has more going on that just that so it's considered a misdiagnoses.


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10 Nov 2017, 12:13 pm

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God I feel sick with myself. I thought I felt okay to go today but my mind is getting the better of me...
I've gone for half of the week. Is that good enough to feel proud of myself?
Am I a terrible person for not going?
My head is aching terribly.
I can do today's work from home but is it okay to justify myself like that?
How do I talk to my counselor about agoraphobia? Do I just be blunt and tell him I'm unable to go everyday? Should I wait to talk to him until I get a real therapist?


Going for half a week is a huge accomplishment! Remember, this is your first week at a new place, with a new schedule and faces. It's likely going to be the hardest week you have to deal with. As a fellow agoraphobe, I have to say that I'm really impressed!
As for the guilt, that's really common with agoraphobia. I can't tell you how many times I've flaked out on obligations and felt terrible about it for weeks afterward. And I'm always pestering myself with thoughts like, "Can I really not go? Or am I just using it as an excuse to avoid something I don't want to do?" But that it's just the disorder talking, you have to remind yourself. You're completely justified. Trust me.
Regarding next week, I have to admit your agoraphobia won't fix itself anytime soon. Medication changes take time, and no disability can be overcome easily. BUT what people don't often realize about agoraphobia is that you can actually become perfectly comfortable in certain environments by repeated exposure and coping methods. So, while the agoraphobia can't be conquered so easily, you can conquer "safe zones" with less effort. Potentially, you could even start to enjoy going to school. I know it seems impossible, but it really is feasible if you can find ways to work around your discomfort at school. It's all about compromise, I've found.
For the counselor, I think it's safe to just go ahead and talk to him about it. Agoraphobia isn't something that needs to be officially diagnosed, at least to talk about it, but you should be prepared to explain what it is. If you're nervous about a face-to-face meeting, you could e-mail.
You're doing really well, and while I know you would prefer homeschooling, look at what you've managed to do. Leaving the house and navigating school for several days. You're fighting back against agoraphobia. You should feel proud of yourself and what you're doing.


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10 Nov 2017, 12:20 pm

Texas seems to have a thing with not taking issues seriously. Like they have a view on what intellectual impairment is so they always use Lennie from Of Mice and Men to define it and if an inmate is nothing like him, they say he is normal and it doesn't matter if they can't dress themselves or do math above the first grade level or couldn't tie their shoes until 7th grade, etc. They still execute inmates with a low IQ despite the federal law being out that no one under IQ of 70 can be put to death but they allow each state to determine their own status of the inmate about intellectual impairment. That is a loophole there for states especially Texas.

I do a blog and someone anonymous on there once accused me of faking autism and I checked the IP and it came from Texas. :D Why is it that every time someone accuses someone of faking something, they are always from Texas? Why is it that when mental issues are not being taken seriously and mental illnesses and people being so ignorant, it's always in Texas? Is it a coincidence?

I know someone else on here and he also does a blog and he has someone who goes by the name Solar or something and he told me that person's IP comes from somewhere in Texas. That person is always getting on his back about his issues and called him a narcissist and sees his blog as him whining and not taking responsibility for himself. Mmmmm.


So I just love to make these stereotype jokes about Texas and mental illnesses/disorders/disabilities.


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10 Nov 2017, 1:54 pm

Well my mother is kicking me out of the house. I have no idea what to do at this point. Nowhere to go.
I'll probably get myself hit by a car later.
I enjoyed the time we had to talk but I don't have much more of it. If any.



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10 Nov 2017, 2:09 pm

Your mother can't kick you out of the house--even in Texas. She has an obligation to support you.

What is her problem? It's not like you abuse her.



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10 Nov 2017, 2:28 pm

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Well my mother is kicking me out of the house. I have no idea what to do at this point. Nowhere to go.
I'll probably get myself hit by a car later.
I enjoyed the time we had to talk but I don't have much more of it. If any.



How can she kick you out of the house? You're a minor. Is she divorced? Is she sending you to a group home or something or to a mental hospital?


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10 Nov 2017, 3:32 pm

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Well my mother is kicking me out of the house. I have no idea what to do at this point. Nowhere to go.
I'll probably get myself hit by a car later.
I enjoyed the time we had to talk but I don't have much more of it. If any.

Just at the age of 14?! That’s too young! Plus, it doesn’t help how mental health care in Texas isn’t particularly great. I’ve been through this cycle of negative thinking many times. As a fellow teen, I think that coming here to Wrong Planet is one of the many trustworthy places you can go to for help. At this point, Texans are going to stop caring about their mental health issues.

You and I think very much alike. We’ve both had moments where we’re at the breaking point in life. Have you been diagnosed as autistic? Don’t feel bad if you have. I’m tearing up right now as I write this, for I have never heard of a 14-year-old having these issues.


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10 Nov 2017, 4:29 pm

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Well my mother is kicking me out of the house. I have no idea what to do at this point. Nowhere to go.
I'll probably get myself hit by a car later.
I enjoyed the time we had to talk but I don't have much more of it. If any.


You could go to a teen shelter for starters.



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10 Nov 2017, 4:38 pm

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God I feel sick with myself. I thought I felt okay to go today but my mind is getting the better of me...
I've gone for half of the week. Is that good enough to feel proud of myself?
Am I a terrible person for not going?
My head is aching terribly.
I can do today's work from home but is it okay to justify myself like that?
How do I talk to my counselor about agoraphobia? Do I just be blunt and tell him I'm unable to go everyday? Should I wait to talk to him until I get a real therapist?


That's like someone with epilepsy asking if they should be proud of themselves for having less seizures this week.
That's like someone with epilepsy asking if they are a terrible person for having seizures.
No it's just called doing homework.

Yes, hell yes, tell your counselor everything asap. The counselor might even be able to get you help that you don't know exists.



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10 Nov 2017, 9:25 pm

I'm about to be held by a hospital until they send me to the psychward.
Thank you all. I'll post again as soon as I can.



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10 Nov 2017, 9:31 pm

Is your mother sending you to the emergency room?



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10 Nov 2017, 9:38 pm

I truly wish you the best.