late onset autism?

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As you can see, I don't "write much," either.

It's a matter of personal style. Some people write dissertations for every post, which contain much useful information.

Some people are more laconic in their written expression.

Its usually a good idea that I slowly check over what I've written. How things sound in my head and how they might come across can be quite different! I'm reading these acounts with a genuine interest so please write on.

How old does toddlerhood start?

I've always let myself stay neck deep in my interests. The only coping skill that I have for my interests is I taught myself how to pick and choose interests so that I can find things that support my overall growth and improvement as a person.



I tend to be more verbose than I would like... I wish I could be more concise in my messages and output, but I find myself having to over-explain since I never can trust that someone will understand my entire point if I don't. Like this statement. I could have ended it after the second line but if I don't give this specific example then I'll feel like it's likely that anyone who reads the message would be left with a vague description that's hard to understand. By backing it up with an example I feel more confident that it'll make sense. This is mostly related to a lifetime of being misunderstood and misunderstanding others on the first explanation of things.

I believe your reasons are the reason why other people write long posts. They want to make darn sure that they are understood completely. That is most understandable, and laudable, even.

As for the onset of "toddlerhood": it's when a baby starts walking--usually when he/she is around a year old. It is said that toddlerhood lasts from ages 1 to 3, usually. It is rare for a person 3 years old or above to be referred to as a "toddler."

To "toddle" means to walk unsteadily, basically.

no. autism develops very early in life.

however i know what you mean. you see, theres almost always a delay with autism, some children are late to speak or make friends with peers but sometimes a person can be so high functioning, the delays and deficits will only be apparent in comparison to peers or how you are SUPPOSE to be functioning.

for example, a special interest may look normal to a 5 year old but after someone hits adulthood it starts to look atypical and can affect the person.

I recognise this trait. and since becoming conscious of the ASD it seems all the more prominent. I'm starting to see the puzzlement on peoples faces as I bombard them with my long winded and garbled explanations. I'm noticing friends bracing themselves for the detailed explanations. My girlfriend is a very emotional person, It was her who picked up on my ASD. As the thread started.......

I know right? lol! (Laughing because I relate, not laughing at you)

What makes this especially relatable for me is that I didn't know that I wasn't as great at reading facial expressions before I found ASD... so I would miss stuff like this. Then when I found ASD I started to think more about the details of facial expressions like people looking away or frowning and trying to reassess what that meant. It was like all the sudden I got a little better at it, which led to me seeing when people were getting frustrated with certain behaviors of mine.

Recently I found out that the reaction people have to me when I do it is that I sound arrogant. The especially difficult part about this is, if I don't over-explain things... people think I am being dismissive! As if I am telling them that they aren't smart enough to understand the details of what I am trying to say. My analysis of this is that I have a broad vocabulary yet I stumble and struggle with words so I sound more like a mad scientist as I talk. So when I blow through an explanation it seems like I am talking over peoples' heads as if I am smarter than them or something... when the truth is I am just too dumb to explain it properly! x.x sometimes you just can't win.

How all this relates to the OP: I didn't have to deal with ANY of this stuff until I was at least about 30 years old. I never thought of any of this, I had no idea that people felt this way, and it caused absolutely no stress in my life until this past 6 or 8 years. If I didn't know any better, I could easily have assumed that it was a new problem. Since I know that ASD is an early onset pervasive disorder though I have reviewed my life to see that I've probably been doing it for my whole life.

I have to force myself to give shorter answers!

I am usually very quiet, shy, and just don't engage with people much, but if I am one on one and am comfortable enough with the situation to talk then boy can I talk!

I also wonder what I would have done without online forums. I am very comfortable talking in the written word, I use a few different forums everyday just to chat, I don't have much daily chat with anyone in real life so this helps me. no surprise my dream is to write a book!

My ASD comes to the surface around certain people, the people who can't cope with it. Does anyone relate to that?

I think the confusions comes form Autistic burnout, after pretending to be like a complete normal person for so many years to the point where you could not take it anymore or the symptoms of ASD developed between 0-24 years of age, where your brain is still in developmental stage and something biological effected how your brain works and you were diagnosed with ASD.


I understand that you are an adult at the age of 18, but your brain can still be in a developmental stage until your are 25 or 30 at least and that is where your personality start to change much slower than usual, because your frontal lobe in the brain is already developed.


I think that any diagnostic books should start stating that the symptoms of any developmental disorders can develop later in life, as long your you are at least 24 or 30 years old, because your brain is still developing until your are 25 or even until you are 30 years old


I think you should be at least 0-24 years old for symptoms of ASD to develop or to be diagnosed with ASD at 0-24 of age, but there are reasons to why you can be diagnosed with Autism 25+


But I do agree that most developmental disorders start in early life.


I think there is such thing what used to be PDD-NOS for this situation

PDD-NOS includes atypical autism,[4] because the criteria for autistic disorder are not met, for instance because of late age of onset, atypical symptomatology, or subthreshold symptomatology, or all of these.[3] Even though PDD-NOS is considered milder than typical autism, this is not always true. While some characteristics may be milder, others may be more severe.[5]

I have been wandering of there can be ate age of onset, atypical symptomatology, or subthreshold symptomatology


For example, your symptoms of any developmental disorder developed 0-24, before age of 25 or older before 30


Even though you are legally an adult at the age of 18, it seems too young.


I mean, you can't even drink until you are 21, but even then, I consider 21 too young as well, until your are at least 25.


I hope that I am being logical in when it comes to this fuzzy situations from my perspective.