The Social RULES Do NOT Apply to Us

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I'm assuming there would still be provisions for the inevitable hospital visit, prescription fills, grocery procurement, etc., right?

Why the hell would I wanna treat anyone as less than equal? The fact that at least US society is deeply ableist (the same way it's deeply racist, deeply patriarchal, deeply unequal and exploitative in terms of class differences. among other Isms) doesn't give me some f****d up desire to turn the tables on NT society and wish we the ND community were the Brahmins of this f****d up caste system! Why the f**k would I want that, or why would anyone for that matter?! If you think fighting social hierarchies by turning the social order upside down is some kind of "social (or poetic) justice" or wtf ever, then you still believe in caste systems, which it should go w/o saying, are feudal social relics, like the British royal family and the rest of their stupid nobility. Most people don't have time for that s**t any more! We've got alot more pressing problems in the world like climate change, keeping a roof over our heads and food in our bellies and whatnot, as the large majority of Millennials and Gen Zers will tell you.

If you want equality, fine cool, hopefully we're all down w/that. If not, GTFOH!

I agree with you, except for the 'GTFO' part, since I respect the right for people to have their opinions.

I believe in a social rule where everyone treats others with the mentality of optimising people's self-esteem. In fact, self-esteem is the 2nd highest level in Maslow's hierarchy of needs, so I think this would be a great rule to adopt.

In an autistic-friendly world -- or an autistic-friendly subculture -- there would still be social rules, but a somewhat different set of social rules. See the separate threads Autistic-friendly social skills vs. blending in with NT's and Social rules of autistic-friendly social spaces?.

I quite like the idea of drawing up entire social contracts for interactions with someone living in close proximity to me. Yes, there's beauty in guesswork in getting to know someone but the basic stuff like vehement pet peeves makes it a whole lot easier.

I don't mind being regarded as inferior by NTs, given that I know that the opposite is typically true; I'm just glad I don't have to put up with their silly conventions.

Their silly conventions are the sort of errant pedantry up with which I will not put.

I agree with your observation, which is the reason we need to build an autistic-friendly subculture (including autistic-friendly workplaces).

As far as I can tell, ezbzbfcg2 didn't actually advocate that we somehow invert the hierarchy, at least not here in this thread. He didn't actually advocate anything in particular, other than to reject the idea that we can ever fit in with NT society.

To ezbzbfcg2: What solution do you advocate, if any?

You're correct. That poster was very presumptuous and very off target. His response completely misrepresents everything I've said and shows his own ignorance.

As for what I advocate, I have no real solution for you. Ask the "successful" Aspies here. It boils down to perpetually masking, or somehow being really good at something or having government or familial funding.

But even then, even if all needs are met and you can eek out a pleasant existence, you're still at the mercy of this system. It can never be overcome. It's our lot in life and the rules they have will never be extended to us. We'll always be the second class to the NT collective.

I have not read all the responses on this thread but yeah, I feel this very much.

This is true. However, it's never too late to start testing boundaries.

I'm in trouble right now. My biggest challenge is emotional regulation. I don't flip out, or bring an AK47 to settle the score. But, I've begun to speak my peace. I'm a nurse. I require a certain amount of structure, which I create for myself, to have my day go smoothly. When another nurse interferes with that, I may (or may not, it depends ) tell her to go away. I don't do it unnecessarily. If someone is asking for help with their day, I will do my best to help. But, if they are chaotic, or gossiping, I tell them to beat it! They don't like that? Too bad! It works... I don't say, 'go away, you stupid ****!' I just say, 'go away.'

Aaaand, I get in trouble. But, I'm not stopping.