Anybody struggling to find their place here on WP?

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14 Feb 2021, 12:05 pm

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I would miss you if you decided to leave here, even if you don't feel like you fit in.


I was just reporting, not thinking of bolting. If I ever do find a fit, though, I'll fade from here.


Your contribution would be sorely missed . Voices of reason are not easily found these days especially if they have a altruistic quality to them . :D


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15 Feb 2021, 9:33 pm

I struggle to find my place on WP today. I feel like the mods and some of the members don't want my kind on here anymore. :( Back when I first joined this site in 2005, in the good old days when WP still had a blue-and-green color scheme, it had a rebellious feel to it through and through. Like an underground society of like-minded people. It was us aspies banding together against the cruel world. Sharing information. Exchanging insight. Giving each other advice. Undermining the establishment. Sticking it to our NT families and to society. Admitting to each other what we'd take to our graves in the world at large. I loved this site, while hoping and praying no one in real life finds out I'm on it.

The change started happen sometime in 2012. That's when mods became more strict, and this site lost its rebel edge. I got issued warnings, had my threads moved or deleted, and basically turned against. All for the very things I once got free passes for, if not outright praised for. Like talking about having sex with escorts, getting into altercations with parents who acted too prideful about being strict, or teaching people to outsmart therapists.

Today, WP has become very similar to the NT world it once provided a respite from. With the exception of a few die-hard members, most seem very mainstream-minded, pro-government, pro-society, and anti-rebellion. That is, assimilating into society instead of taking advantage of it like it takes advantage of us. (I'm not talking about manipulating individual people, but dealing with society as a whole.) For example, almost everyone on here is terrified of Covid, like social norms dictate. When I admitted to flouting Covid rules, people bit my head off, and even worse, quoted "facts" from the mainstream media that normally mocks us.

I honestly feel like I no longer belong on here. Either my personality changed a lot---hey, I went on a cruise solo and made friends with two good-looking women, one of whom I kissed---or the member base on WP shifted to a very mainstream mindset. Ironically, my "underground society" today is a group of socially-skilled Trump supporters wishing to socialize and not stay home, and aren't scared of no virus. They like my creative anti-Democrat puns (that I'm sure my AS helps me come up with), sarcastic humor, and forward personality (meaning looking to be in the center of action, like on my cruise).



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15 Feb 2021, 9:41 pm

I feel I don't fit in here because I feel I don't fit in everywhere. So I'm not surprised or disappointed by that.


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15 Feb 2021, 9:50 pm

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When I admitted on here to flouting Covid rules, people bit my head off; and even worse, quoted "facts" from the mainstream media that normally mocks us.

Last I heard, the mainstream media also advised eating and sleeping regularly.

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I honestly feel like I no longer belong on here. Either my personality changed a lot---hey, I went on a cruise solo and made friends with two good-looking women, one of whom I kissed---or the member base on WP shifted to a very mainstream mindset. Ironically, my "underground society" today is a group of socially-skilled Trump supporters wishing to hang out and not stay home. They like my sarcastic humor and forward personality (meaning looking to be in the center of action, like on my cruise), skills I never dreamed of acquiring when I was younger.

Weird flex but ok. You do you.


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15 Feb 2021, 9:58 pm

Who thought that showing my true colours would help me to find my place.


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15 Feb 2021, 10:00 pm

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Last I heard, the mainstream media also advised eating and sleeping regularly.

Weird flex but ok. You do you.
THIS is what I'm talking about. People on WP have become extremely pro-establishment and pro-media. Everyone blindly follows what the mainstream society dictates, and don't even consider the possibility that the authority is wrong or lying to us. I'm sure some of the mainstream messages are true---like a stopped clock is right twice a day. But there's no feel of underground rebellion or critical thinking on here anymore.

Being different is still accepted, no doubt, as long as it's the "right kind" of different. And mine isn't it. I rest my case.



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15 Feb 2021, 10:17 pm

I tend to spend a lot of time lurking on WrongPlanet. I do this because I don't think I necessarily fit in here. I feel like it would be better to just leave from time to time, but that's not really fair on me. Life is.


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15 Feb 2021, 10:19 pm

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But there's no feel of underground rebellion or critical thinking on here anymore.

And boasting about your latest Casanova feats on a cruise, of all places, is an example of pure "rebellious" "anti-mainstream" aspie critical thinking, I'm sure?

Come on... I don't even know you, but I know you know better than that. You just cannot be serious.


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15 Feb 2021, 10:32 pm

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And boasting about your latest Casanova feats on a cruise, of all places, is an example of pure "rebellious" "anti-mainstream" aspie critical thinking, I'm sure?

Come on... I don't even know you, but I know you know better than that. You just cannot be serious.
I was referring to flouting Covid rules, despite the fearmongering in the mainstream media. People reacted extremely negatively when I talked about it. Which surprised me, to be honest, considering how us aspies don't always fit in with the mainstream society and/or have trouble following mainstream rules. Because in the distant past, when I talked about having sex with escorts, the reactions I got were nowhere near as negative. In fact, people even asked me how I found them online and what the experience was like. But now, ironically, I don't fit in well here.

The reactions I got to my cruise narratives were mostly positive, actually. But those were success stories, not rebellion. They were meant to inspire hope and let me debrief. Plus, they took place before Covid.



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15 Feb 2021, 10:40 pm

Aspie1 wrote:
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Last I heard, the mainstream media also advised eating and sleeping regularly.

Weird flex but ok. You do you.
THIS is what I'm talking about. People on WP have become extremely pro-establishment and pro-media. Everyone blindly follows what the mainstream society dictates, and don't even consider the possibility that the authority is wrong or lying to us. I'm sure some of the mainstream messages are true---like a stopped clock is right twice a day. But there's no feel of underground rebellion or critical thinking on here anymore.

Being different is still accepted, no doubt, as long as it's the "right kind" of different. And mine isn't it. I rest my case.


Please to be staying , contrasting points of view are necessary I feel . And you do seem to be a good contrast for this site especially if you have been here many , years .


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15 Feb 2021, 10:48 pm

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People reacted extremely negatively when I talked about it. Which surprised me, to be honest, considering how us aspies don't always fit in with the mainstream society and/or have trouble following mainstream rules.

How could they not react extremely negatively to it? It has nothing to do with fitting in. Nothing to do with autism or lack thereof. It's only a matter of willingness to do slightly inconvenient things to prevent disease. Some people just don't care about the risk to themselves and don't care about the consequences to other people. I can understand that. But I cannot understand, and I have a hard time believing, that someone could honestly believe that they're doing nothing wrong if they decide to ignore those disease prevention rules.

(Btw sorry to the OP that this is getting off topic. I'm just struggling to collect all the pieces of my jaw from the floor.)


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15 Feb 2021, 10:51 pm

Jakki wrote:
Please to be staying , contrasting points of view are necessary I feel . And you do seem to be a good contrast for this site especially if you have been here many , years .
Thanks. :thumright: Eminem once said: "We need a little controversy. / 'Cause it feels so empty without me." :D

Now, I don't plan to close my WP account on my own accord. But if other WP members make it clear that they don't want me posting, or if the mods want me gone---hey, I already have 2 warnings under my belt---then there's nothing I can do about it. I'm just saddened that even aspies are buying into the mainstream media's lie, and are willing to kick me out of this site for it.



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15 Feb 2021, 11:02 pm

Oh screw the media. Who cares what they think?


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17 Feb 2021, 7:12 am

I joined this site years ago when it was still "small". It was probably big. I had just been diagnosed with autism and wanted to talk with people who were like me.

The place changed months later when there was a mass banning of moderators. One of those moderators was my partner. This banning caused other forums to be made - most of those didn't last.

But anyway, I came back here some years later to find that the mass banning I observed wasn't the only one. It had happened more than once. There were also lots of people I didn't know so I did what I do best. I lurked.

I'm still lurking a lot these days. I don't know much so it's hard for me to contribute. I guess that's basically it, lack of intelligence. There's also writing a post and then the thread is on page 2 by the next day. That's disheartening. But I can't be the only one, surely. There must be others in the same boat.



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17 Feb 2021, 1:11 pm

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There's also writing a post and then the thread is on page 2 by the next day. That's disheartening. But I can't be the only one, surely. There must be others in the same boat.

I've had that problem at least a couple of times (though not necessarily here). Sometimes it can be that no one is interested or no one knows what to say, but I think it's also not uncommon that it's just unlucky timing (so by the time the people who would reply to your thread are browsing the site, too many other threads have jumped ahead of it). Sometimes just sneaking in a reply of your own to your thread, at a different time of the day/week, with a minor correction or addition that you "forgot" to include in the OP can do the trick.


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17 Feb 2021, 5:41 pm

Am just amazed somedays that this site even exists , am frantically happy if I get any responses .
Much less if the end p on page 2. Or 3 . Am just happy to see my words. Making it into print initially on the first
Page . It is a kindness , I feel if someone responds at all . Just my own opinion .


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