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19 Aug 2021, 11:39 am

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I've been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am not a Medical Doctor and have never claimed to be. I've Also been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am self diagnosed, but 100% certain of my diagnosis - unless every single ASD textbook is wrong. (which they are not.)


ok, so where are these "ASD textbooks"? :o :?: :!:


I post links to.three science articles stating that autism is mainly or primarily genetic in origin and he focused on the parts that say environment may play a lesser and unproven roll. Just seeing what he wants to see.



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19 Aug 2021, 11:49 am

The_Znof wrote:
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I've been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am not a Medical Doctor and have never claimed to be. I've Also been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am self diagnosed, but 100% certain of my diagnosis - unless every single ASD textbook is wrong. (which they are not.)


ok, so where are these "ASD textbooks"? :o :?: :!:


Many of these are books written for the mass market targeting parents of low functioning children with classic Autism who are desperate for a normal kid. Fact is nothing will "cure" a non verbal person with a classical presentation.



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19 Aug 2021, 11:52 am

Axeman wrote:
The_Znof wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I've been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am not a Medical Doctor and have never claimed to be. I've Also been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am self diagnosed, but 100% certain of my diagnosis - unless every single ASD textbook is wrong. (which they are not.)


ok, so where are these "ASD textbooks"? :o :?: :!:


I post links to.three science articles stating that autism is mainly or primarily genetic in origin and he focused on the parts that say environment may play a lesser and unproven roll. Just seeing what he wants to see.


I posted links to studies focused on the environmental aspects. I've also shared my personal experiences with them here for the last 9 years. Just as Pareto's law states, it's "The vital few vs. the trivial many." Even IF genetic causes are the majority % of causes when tallied (somehow? are genes more abundant than intestinal flora? somehow I doubt it) and environmental causes are a lower % of the total list of causes, it's been My Personal Experience that focusing on these vital few environmental causes results in successful treatment of the lion's share of symptoms. Same same for the doctors and researchers who've conducted studies since my personal discoveries - especially those who've utilized FMT as a single dose administered treatment in children as the result was those children remaining off the spectrum/with sub-clinical symptoms after 2 years' time and follow up observations & assessments.

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19 Aug 2021, 11:59 am

goldfish21 wrote:
Axeman wrote:
The_Znof wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I've been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am not a Medical Doctor and have never claimed to be. I've Also been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am self diagnosed, but 100% certain of my diagnosis - unless every single ASD textbook is wrong. (which they are not.)


ok, so where are these "ASD textbooks"? :o :?: :!:


I post links to.three science articles stating that autism is mainly or primarily genetic in origin and he focused on the parts that say environment may play a lesser and unproven roll. Just seeing what he wants to see.


I posted links to studies focused on the environmental aspects. I've also shared my personal experiences with them here for the last 9 years. Just as Pareto's law states, it's "The vital few vs. the trivial many." Even IF genetic causes are the majority % of causes when tallied (somehow? are genes more abundant than intestinal flora? somehow I doubt it) and environmental causes are a lower % of the total list of causes, it's been My Personal Experience that focusing on these vital few environmental causes results in successful treatment of the lion's share of symptoms. Same same for the doctors and researchers who've conducted studies since my personal discoveries - especially those who've utilized FMT as a single dose administered treatment in children as the result was those children remaining off the spectrum/with sub-clinical symptoms after 2 years' time and follow up observations & assessments.

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I don't care about your personal experience. You are not a doctor you have no diagnosis and there is no way to confirm or peer review your findings. They count for nothing.



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19 Aug 2021, 12:02 pm

Axeman wrote:
The_Znof wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I've been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am not a Medical Doctor and have never claimed to be. I've Also been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am self diagnosed, but 100% certain of my diagnosis - unless every single ASD textbook is wrong. (which they are not.)


ok, so where are these "ASD textbooks"? :o :?: :!:


Many of these are books written for the mass market targeting parents of low functioning children with classic Autism who are desperate for a normal kid. Fact is nothing will "cure" a non verbal person with a classical presentation.


Perhaps many are, but "The Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome," by Dr. Tony Attwood is definitely not about low functioning/classic ASD.

Perhaps nothing Known Today will treat/cure a non verbal person with classical presentation (I've yet to hear or read of anything.) But, that's not to say it won't be discovered in the future.

Somewhat related, I believe that instead of treating future cases of non-verbal ASD, that some methods of treatment/cure will be deployed in infancy/young childhood, and cases of non-verbal ASD will be prevented vs. treated after the fact. I do not Know this, but, it's a theory of mine that gut dysbiosis in infancy May be a driver of abnormal nervous system development - enteric or otherwise/brain - and that correcting it as young as possible May yield more normal/neurotypical development of brains and nervous symptoms, which in turn May prevent cases of non-verbal ASD from developing & occurring. Only time will tell if that truly is the case or not.

FWIW, I saw the child yesterday that I recognized infant signs of ASD in @ ~12months (and knew the cause of; mass amounts of antibiotics to clear a systemic bacterial infection he contracted likely in the hospital the day he was born and went undiagnosed/misdiagnosed for ~a year or so) and had his parents correct it via diet. He'll be 10 in late December and is definitely neurrotypical. Feels good to see my greatest accomplishment in life to date growing up normal as every other kid. 8)


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19 Aug 2021, 12:03 pm

Axeman wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Axeman wrote:
The_Znof wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I've been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am not a Medical Doctor and have never claimed to be. I've Also been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am self diagnosed, but 100% certain of my diagnosis - unless every single ASD textbook is wrong. (which they are not.)


ok, so where are these "ASD textbooks"? :o :?: :!:


I post links to.three science articles stating that autism is mainly or primarily genetic in origin and he focused on the parts that say environment may play a lesser and unproven roll. Just seeing what he wants to see.


I posted links to studies focused on the environmental aspects. I've also shared my personal experiences with them here for the last 9 years. Just as Pareto's law states, it's "The vital few vs. the trivial many." Even IF genetic causes are the majority % of causes when tallied (somehow? are genes more abundant than intestinal flora? somehow I doubt it) and environmental causes are a lower % of the total list of causes, it's been My Personal Experience that focusing on these vital few environmental causes results in successful treatment of the lion's share of symptoms. Same same for the doctors and researchers who've conducted studies since my personal discoveries - especially those who've utilized FMT as a single dose administered treatment in children as the result was those children remaining off the spectrum/with sub-clinical symptoms after 2 years' time and follow up observations & assessments.

:ninja:


I don't care about your personal experience. You are not a doctor you have no diagnosis and there is no way to confirm or peer review your findings. They count for nothing.


I guess all is well and balanced in the universe then, because I equally don't care about your criticisms, insults, or opinions on the matter. :) :beer: :fish:


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19 Aug 2021, 12:06 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Axeman wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Axeman wrote:
The_Znof wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I've been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am not a Medical Doctor and have never claimed to be. I've Also been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am self diagnosed, but 100% certain of my diagnosis - unless every single ASD textbook is wrong. (which they are not.)


ok, so where are these "ASD textbooks"? :o :?: :!:


I post links to.three science articles stating that autism is mainly or primarily genetic in origin and he focused on the parts that say environment may play a lesser and unproven roll. Just seeing what he wants to see.


I posted links to studies focused on the environmental aspects. I've also shared my personal experiences with them here for the last 9 years. Just as Pareto's law states, it's "The vital few vs. the trivial many." Even IF genetic causes are the majority % of causes when tallied (somehow? are genes more abundant than intestinal flora? somehow I doubt it) and environmental causes are a lower % of the total list of causes, it's been My Personal Experience that focusing on these vital few environmental causes results in successful treatment of the lion's share of symptoms. Same same for the doctors and researchers who've conducted studies since my personal discoveries - especially those who've utilized FMT as a single dose administered treatment in children as the result was those children remaining off the spectrum/with sub-clinical symptoms after 2 years' time and follow up observations & assessments.

:ninja:


I don't care about your personal experience. You are not a doctor you have no diagnosis and there is no way to confirm or peer review your findings. They count for nothing.


I guess all is well and balanced in the universe then, because I equally don't care about your criticisms, insults, or opinions on the matter. :) :beer: :fish:


Anyone who did fmt to a kid needs to be locked up.



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19 Aug 2021, 12:09 pm

Axeman wrote:
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Axeman wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Axeman wrote:
The_Znof wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I've been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am not a Medical Doctor and have never claimed to be. I've Also been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am self diagnosed, but 100% certain of my diagnosis - unless every single ASD textbook is wrong. (which they are not.)


ok, so where are these "ASD textbooks"? :o :?: :!:


I post links to.three science articles stating that autism is mainly or primarily genetic in origin and he focused on the parts that say environment may play a lesser and unproven roll. Just seeing what he wants to see.


I posted links to studies focused on the environmental aspects. I've also shared my personal experiences with them here for the last 9 years. Just as Pareto's law states, it's "The vital few vs. the trivial many." Even IF genetic causes are the majority % of causes when tallied (somehow? are genes more abundant than intestinal flora? somehow I doubt it) and environmental causes are a lower % of the total list of causes, it's been My Personal Experience that focusing on these vital few environmental causes results in successful treatment of the lion's share of symptoms. Same same for the doctors and researchers who've conducted studies since my personal discoveries - especially those who've utilized FMT as a single dose administered treatment in children as the result was those children remaining off the spectrum/with sub-clinical symptoms after 2 years' time and follow up observations & assessments.

:ninja:


I don't care about your personal experience. You are not a doctor you have no diagnosis and there is no way to confirm or peer review your findings. They count for nothing.


I guess all is well and balanced in the universe then, because I equally don't care about your criticisms, insults, or opinions on the matter. :) :beer: :fish:


Anyone who did fmt to a kid needs to be locked up.


Why would a Medical Doctor need to be locked up for practicing medicine? :? :chin:


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19 Aug 2021, 12:14 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Axeman wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Axeman wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Axeman wrote:
The_Znof wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I've been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am not a Medical Doctor and have never claimed to be. I've Also been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am self diagnosed, but 100% certain of my diagnosis - unless every single ASD textbook is wrong. (which they are not.)


ok, so where are these "ASD textbooks"? :o :?: :!:


I post links to.three science articles stating that autism is mainly or primarily genetic in origin and he focused on the parts that say environment may play a lesser and unproven roll. Just seeing what he wants to see.


I posted links to studies focused on the environmental aspects. I've also shared my personal experiences with them here for the last 9 years. Just as Pareto's law states, it's "The vital few vs. the trivial many." Even IF genetic causes are the majority % of causes when tallied (somehow? are genes more abundant than intestinal flora? somehow I doubt it) and environmental causes are a lower % of the total list of causes, it's been My Personal Experience that focusing on these vital few environmental causes results in successful treatment of the lion's share of symptoms. Same same for the doctors and researchers who've conducted studies since my personal discoveries - especially those who've utilized FMT as a single dose administered treatment in children as the result was those children remaining off the spectrum/with sub-clinical symptoms after 2 years' time and follow up observations & assessments.

:ninja:


I don't care about your personal experience. You are not a doctor you have no diagnosis and there is no way to confirm or peer review your findings. They count for nothing.


I guess all is well and balanced in the universe then, because I equally don't care about your criticisms, insults, or opinions on the matter. :) :beer: :fish:


Anyone who did fmt to a kid needs to be locked up.


Why would a Medical Doctor need to be locked up for practicing medicine? :? :chin:


You seek to rid the world of people like Bill Gates and Einstein. Fact is NTs invented no science and almost no technology. There are places where neurodiversity is almost unknown in Africa and South America. The people there still live in mud huts insulated by animal feces.



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19 Aug 2021, 2:14 pm

Actually, there are many people who live under modern conditions in South America and Africa.

And if they don’t, they make do with what they have. They’re very resourceful.



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19 Aug 2021, 2:20 pm

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Actually, there are many people who live under modern conditions in South America and Africa.

And if they don’t, they make do with what they have. They’re very resourceful.


Their advancements all came from contact with outside cultures and would never have been self developed.



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Actually, there are many people who live under modern conditions in South America and Africa.

And if they don’t, they make do with what they have. They’re very resourceful.

Their advancements all came from contact with outside cultures and would never have been self developed.

Brutal colonialism that previously destroyed these societes also came from outside.

Now in the global world, everyone should be able to contribute and benefit.


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FWIW, I saw the child yesterday that I recognized infant signs of ASD in @ ~12months (and knew the cause of; mass amounts of antibiotics to clear a systemic bacterial infection he contracted likely in the hospital the day he was born and went undiagnosed/misdiagnosed for ~a year or so) and had his parents correct it via diet. He'll be 10 in late December and is definitely neurrotypical. Feels good to see my greatest accomplishment in life to date growing up normal as every other kid. 8)


How can you recognise signs of autism in a baby under 12 months?


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Actually, there are many people who live under modern conditions in South America and Africa.

And if they don’t, they make do with what they have. They’re very resourceful.

Their advancements all came from contact with outside cultures and would never have been self developed.

Brutal colonialism that previously destroyed these societes also came from outside.

Now in the global world, everyone should be able to contribute and benefit.


There is a youtube video showing average IQ per nation. African countries are ENTIRELY at the bottom. I wondered how this truth bomb got past their censors. It's because it's all true and findable online.



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FWIW, I saw the child yesterday that I recognized infant signs of ASD in @ ~12months (and knew the cause of; mass amounts of antibiotics to clear a systemic bacterial infection he contracted likely in the hospital the day he was born and went undiagnosed/misdiagnosed for ~a year or so) and had his parents correct it via diet. He'll be 10 in late December and is definitely neurrotypical. Feels good to see my greatest accomplishment in life to date growing up normal as every other kid. 8)


How can you recognise signs of autism in a baby under 12 months?


Good question. Better one based on articles he likes to cite is how do you recognize it in mice.