Do mental disorders in people turn you on?

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Developmental disorder means something that interferes with the normal development and progress of a human being. AS gets in the way of normal development. Yes you can in effect GROW out of AS or at least improve your abilities some to where you can be more normal acting if you really try. In my case my parents forced me into a very sheltered life. I think it completely stunted my growth into adulthood. Once I broke free of some of their bonds I learned more how to deal with the outside world, how to make friends, how to get a job and be a good employee and live independently. Some AS people will hide in their parent's basement and say "I CAN'T". But like the children's story of the little train that said "I think I can, I think I can" I started saying "I CAN" and I did. If you focus on improving yourself you can erase some of the deficients of being autistic. Human beings are only stagnant creatures if they want to be.

I have pretty much conquered many of the AS traits I used to have. But I still identify myself as an Aspie because I have a formal diagnosis.

Tim

Grow out of it? No, I'm "very well-adapted."

With that definition, I would say NT's and society in general have a developmental disorder (haha deluding yourself into thinking you're always right IS going to hinder you're development, and right now psychiatry and biopsychiatry are at that point). What is the definition of a human being? What is normal development? Hmmm tough questions. Considering that all neuropsychology has really revealed for certain is that neurons form synapses and the neurons that are used at 1-3 yrs old become the strongest while the rest lay dormant. Did you know that the unstimulated neurons eventually die off? It's an interesting line of thought. The question: what kind of stimuli (diet, surroundings, noise, pollution) in the environment stimulate what kind of growth of which type of neural synapses that deal with what particular function? Answer: we are clueless. This is the root of human development, if we can figure this out we can basically make ourselves. Right now its fairly random because we're not quite sure.

Autistic/Aspie people (excluding low functioning autists, I think they are just severely handicapped, its demeaning to us to give them the label IMO) just develop differently, it is only a developmental disorder because society says so due to the incompatibility and conflicts an autistic mind can create with society's particular and expected ways. Afterall you can't put together a puzzle if the pieces don't fit, you know what I mean. I think the whole problem stems from an out of date society that needs to pull its socks up. It sure is not going to sustain itself for very long in the direction it is heading.

Do you really think NT-like traits are going to be useful in the future? Humanity is no longer as communal as we use to be, at least here in North America. Society needs more people with skillz to sustain and develop.

I think diversity is going to be useful in the future.

If you think THAT'S creepy, I am turned on by CARTOON characters (manga) with mental disorders! That is no joke...

Especially in Texas. Whites are now the minority in many areas of the Lone Star State.

Tim

Well you certainly can't say AS traits will be useful as laziness has gotten very little done in the world. Considering the majority of kids in this country now have some problem whether it be severe diabetes that is already causing them neuropathy as children, or AS, Bipolar, Aniexty disorders and so forth...in other words there is hardly a normal child born these days then NT traits will be super valuable because you are going to have a small group of normal people working their butts off to support the hoards of people on social security their entire lives then yeah I say you better show the normal people respect. Since 90+% of the AS people here won't crawl out of their parent's basement I laugh at your idea that somehow the AS will save the world. The majority of AS are lazy butts and have no skills. Memorizing the names of all the starships in the Star Trek series is a worthless skill. Some have good computer skills, maybe a few are good with science, but if they can't control themselves enough to show up for work each day and not have childish meltdowns if someone says something they don't agree with then how are they going to SUSTAIN anything?

As far as every study thus far produced can tell, hitting a kid produces no positive results.

However, I agree that aspies with the right resources can be a very precious resource to society.

I know a lot of scientists, and I'm not sure any of them are "normal"- or NT, at all.

Yes, but all of them? This subject has hardly gone under-studied. . .



A lot of different factors have changed between the fifties and now.

I know this is going to come off as extreme, but I've got to say. . . I think any time a person hits another in a relationship, regardless of what relationship that may be, it's abusive. That doesn't mean the relationship as a whole couldn't be more good than bad, but violence isn't the right example to be setting for children.

Some of us expect higher standards of ourselves than of our children.

Lack of discipline is a problem, yes; discipline=/= violence.

The corprol punishment model is valid; unfortunately almost no one is trained in the correct application of the model. For example, none of Aradford's examples represent a correct application of the model.

All my ex girlfriends could be defined as "Broken".
I don't intentionally set out to find them that way, but it's what's happened.
I'm not sure if it's just an abberation due to low sample size, or if it's actually a preference.

Wow, that's depressing. How exactly do you define "broken?"

Why am I not suprised?