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06 Jan 2024, 12:51 pm

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I've looked for the meaning of the word and I've found it. I still don't get it. I must really be slow.

Malicious compliance

Malicious compliance is the behavior of strictly following the orders of a superior despite knowing that compliance with the orders will have an unintended or negative result. It usually implies following an order in such a way that ignores or otherwise undermines the order's intent, but follows it to the letter. Wikipedia


Look up malicious compliance examples on youtube. You will find great content creators that read them from Reddit threads. One of my favorite content creators is called Ripe.


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06 Jan 2024, 12:56 pm

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That sounds like passive aggressive behaviour and I have been passive aggressive in my younger years when I was in my 20s.

Malicious compliance is not passive aggressive. It's a brilliant response to arrogant a-hole type people.

Yes, definitely different from passive aggressive. Malicious compliance generally does result in something happening. Passive aggressive behavior usually results in nothing at all.


I would say malicious compliance is a form of passive aggressive behaviour, consider it involves both choosing to not directly engage while also understanding that harm will result to the other party or their interests.
Technically, the actions of MC can be seen as technically passive aggressive if you look at it literally. The difference is that passive aggression is usually not a strategically planned well thought out, calculated, and orchestrated response to someone who is being a total D bag. Malicious compliance takes time and strategy and planning and it's usually brilliant and takes a very intelligent person to pull it off. It is used to specifically put the ahole instigator of the problem in his or her place and to teach them a lesson. It is not ever a knee jerk emotional response. Passive aggression is usually more of a knee jerk response stemming from an emotion of insecurity. Passive aggression takes no real forethought or careful planning.


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06 Jan 2024, 12:59 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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I've looked for the meaning of the word and I've found it. I still don't get it. I must really be slow.

Malicious compliance

Malicious compliance is the behavior of strictly following the orders of a superior despite knowing that compliance with the orders will have an unintended or negative result. It usually implies following an order in such a way that ignores or otherwise undermines the order's intent, but follows it to the letter. Wikipedia


So, for example:

Someone demands you get them a large box sitting on a shelf. You know the box is propping up the next shelf up, but just yank it out anyways(knowing the consequences); especially if you've attempted to communicate that there would be an issue if the box got pulled out.

That example is not malicious compliance. That is passive aggression. Malicious compliance is a very calculated and thought out process that is preplanned and usually pretty complex.


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06 Jan 2024, 1:09 pm

I absolutely hate passive aggression but I love and respect malicious compliance.


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06 Jan 2024, 1:47 pm

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I absolutely hate passive aggression but I love and respect malicious compliance.

Can you give an example of what you consider to be "malicious compliance"?



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06 Jan 2024, 5:25 pm

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I absolutely hate passive aggression but I love and respect malicious compliance.

Can you give an example of what you consider to be "malicious compliance"?
The best way to learn about MC, like I mentioned to Cockney Rebel, is to go to youtube and look up reddit accounts of MC. My favorite content creator who does these is called Ripe.


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06 Jan 2024, 5:59 pm

skibum wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
I've looked for the meaning of the word and I've found it. I still don't get it. I must really be slow.

Malicious compliance

Malicious compliance is the behavior of strictly following the orders of a superior despite knowing that compliance with the orders will have an unintended or negative result. It usually implies following an order in such a way that ignores or otherwise undermines the order's intent, but follows it to the letter. Wikipedia


So, for example:

Someone demands you get them a large box sitting on a shelf. You know the box is propping up the next shelf up, but just yank it out anyways(knowing the consequences); especially if you've attempted to communicate that there would be an issue if the box got pulled out.

That example is not malicious compliance. That is passive aggression. Malicious compliance is a very calculated and thought out process that is preplanned and usually pretty complex.


That's literally MC. :lol:


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07 Jan 2024, 10:29 am

IMO, the shelf/box example is somewhere between passive aggression, and the more tactical-strategic MC.
Because, you are looking at the bigger picture (of the shelf structure and other boxes), not just focusing on the micro level detail.

I think a more knee-jerk example of passive-aggression (which I've used in the past) is when you preface a criticism with "I don't mean to sound cynical / pessimistic / harsh, BUT..." and then you proceed to make a comment that is indeed cynical, pessimistic, and/or harsh.

I think this sort of thing could easily be a follow-up to the separate post on "how to torment NTs" :P