Over analyzing stuff?

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to the n'ieme millenieme degree.

to death
compulsively obsessively, truly madly deeply
incessantly
and as someone said .. painfully
exhaustingly, and forever

but just recently i started believing in god, and when i can actually "hold" the belief i stop feeling such a compulsion to analyse; i suddenly relax. Makes me smile too. The idea of god still writing.

The thing I over analyse the most is other people and their reactions to me. I am constantly wondering what people think of me, why they did what they did, said what they said, what I should say/do to get them to think the right things of me. I use logic to do this (bien sur) and I am very good at logic, so I think a lot of the time I get things pretty much right. Unfortunately, NTs are not always logical in their actions and I can waste a huge amount of time searching harder and harder for the reasons behind what they did, certain that I must be able to find out somehow if only I think long enough. And I cant because there was no logic behind what they did to start with.

Yes, to the point where it just won't turn off. Getting to sleep is hard. When a good manic hits, it's a ride like you just cannot believe and who needs sleep or food. Get locked in a depression and it is just the pits. Now that those are better under control, I still do it.

Like there is a choice in this? I never saw one.

I think you summed it up very well for me there Vince.

It truly disturbs me that so many people jump to conclusions without checking the facts and figures and, indeed, feelings, say, of other people. They call us aspies poor at communicating, but the level of supposition that goes on in the world amongst NTs is massive and massively detrimental not only to personal communication but also to public and corporate communication.

I particularly hate it when people jump to conclusions about what I am feeling. How DARE they tell me what I am feeling? THINK! ASK! CHECK OUT THE FACTS! ANALYSE! before leaping to a conclusion...

I over-analyse too much too.

Sometimes I over-analyse parts of my obsessions. I want to think about it, and try to find solutions to parts that I might have trouble with, but the problem is, during that time I really get stuck on it, and if it proves unanswerable, I can get upset. During this time that I analyse and think on my given subject, I am at risk of becoming overstimulated easily and also to becoming irritable. Especially if I try to ask omeone for an answer towards it, and they are unable to give me one. Then I cry and become depressed.

I like to analyse things too, but I don't think that it is badly. Ability to analyse facts properly is very useful in science and programming for me. But sometimes I find useful to use intuition and feelings, not analysis (but it may be even harder).

I think, that the majority of people use not rational suppositions but developed natural instincts and intuition in communication. And instinct (especially in non-verbal communication) can work nice even without logic.


In most real situations it is simpler not to ask "why?", but ask "how?". Remember, that people have not only logics, but also instincts.

Maybe I open a very old thread, but just found it through google. I was trying to search for roots in my overanalyzing and hear other opinions.

First of all there is another interesting point that has to do with this. I started noticing how the common socialization works and most times people use objects or ideas only as a mean of socialization (social interest), while I might grab from some mentions of objects or ideas in a discussion and start analyzing them in a frenzy (actual interest). For example, one person might come near me at a party, knows that I am a computer geek and tries to find something related to my expertise to open the discussion like "do you use facebook?" (duh!) but then I grab from that thing and instead of having a good flowing discussion, I start overanalyzing focused on the specific idea or object mentioned till I make him bored. They have told me that, I didn't noticed it until they told me, socialization is like throwing the ball to each other, but what I am doing is taking the ball someone throws to me and kick it alone, it's like a monologue. But that's because when they mention a specific idea that interests me to much, I am more motivated to talk and overanalyze it than say something small to get the discussion going on. When I realized that this is what most people do, that socialization is just using the ideas/objects for it's purpose and nobody cares in deep about the true essence of these things they are talking but they just want to have a flowing discussion, it was a bit shocking.

Overanalyzing happens because you really have a deep interest in the objects/ideas examined and because you really need to learn everything from every different angle about them. It's logical that since we were born we found ourselves in a mysterious universe and we really want to get the answers about everything. Why most of the people stop seeking these answers in their deepest roots but only few of us continue doing this is something I cannot yet explain. But the difference I find is this. We care about the actuality, about what is there, about learning the reality, the truth of things. Socialization doesn't involve that, it just uses the ideas no matter how true or not as a mean for human interaction and emotional exchange.

Sometimes overanalyzing can have a negative effect on you, like overanalyzing about negative things, bringing stress and anxiety. I know. What I am curious about is how much overanalyzing is related to autism and how much to Pure-O OCD. Because I find this overanalyzing in people with either or both these cases when reading other people's stories. I don't have the answer. I just wanted to mention it. Overanalyzing is also very characteristic in people with OCD.

Phew, that was a big post. You see now what I am talking about when speaking of overanalyzing..

p.s. I guess I really need one day to find those answers..

I do this all the time and that's how I figure things out or the possibilities of what might have happened.

I'm the same way. My overanalysations rarely have posotive outcomes. Or stem from posotive thinking. Sometimes I tell myself that my thought process is this way because it makes me very smart. But sometimes it just makes me sad.

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yes. I go back and forth to whether people who don't like to think very much are just offended by analysis or whether I am the one with the defect. I do like to think about stuff all the time.

Yes, very much. I tend to analyse social interactions and try to determine why people act the way they do and why I have annoyed someone or why they cannot understand what I am saying clearly. I often see the world from outside looking in and actually feel sorry for others that cannot visualise the world they are trapped in. I see it from outside and therefore want to work out how and why something is the way it is. Mainstream society cannot comprehend what is incomprehensible to them. They feel sorry for me, but I feel sorry for them!

I have this problem too. I don't think overanalysing in this manner is actually an aspie trait, rather it is a symptom of being different and not fitting in. The main problem is trying to work out an NT's actions by using yourself and how you would think as the basis. This happens because in social situations that is precisely what NT's do to understand others, so it encouraged as a method of working people out. It is also logical to try to work someone else out by putting yourself into their shoes. This way of working people out becomes a habit that is hard to break, even when you do find out you think differently to others. The other thing to remember is that you can use logic to work out the reasons for illogical actions.

I too do it all the time.. I try to see things from different perspectives and I think it drives people nuts. It's a difficult thing sometimes because if I start to see different sides to something that is quite appalling or wrong then it disturbs my sense of morality.

Often the next day I'll bring up something that someone said and start analysing it. Hell I can still even do it years after a conversation if it has stuck in my head for some reason.

I over analyzing and over worry all the time. Things stay in my mind for a long time too, even if they were tiny being over analyzed and over worried about

Yes.

It is useful in that I can keep on running over things and looking at them in all kinds of ways until I resolve them, (sometimes takes many years) but if it is something unhappy, then it is a real disadvantage because I don't stop going over it until there is some kind of resolution in my mind.

There are some things that happened over a decade ago, or even more now and I still twizzle them over and over trying to make them make sense.