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01 Feb 2008, 2:49 am

I was tested at age 11 and scored 143. I tested myself online a few months ago and scored 135. I think, if I would have taken some advanced math classes in high school, my score would have been a little higher. I am mechanically gifted. That is my Xman/ASA strength.

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01 Feb 2008, 6:25 am

LostInSpace wrote:

Astilius wrote:

Einstein (people seem to be fixated with him) had been measured at around 170.

I'm measured at 156

Actually, I don't think Einstein's IQ was ever measured. Didn't they just estimate it based on his accomplishments, like they've done with other famous figures? I think that's why everyone has been giving different answers.

I read that he did do one late in life, but that was never properly confirmed. That was the same place where I read he had an IQ of 200 IIRC. It's why I personally believe that figure.

But yeah - there were a lot of estimates along those lines.

Paulsinnerchild;

I don't know where you got the "mental retardation" because strictly speaking that's not IQ related as such. MR can actually co-exist with average intelligence.

Now if you replaced MR with intellectual disability (or intellectual retardation if you like) that would be more accurate. That's certainly the way DHS in Victoria treats it.

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01 Feb 2008, 7:35 am

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Paulsinnerchild;

I don't know where you got the "mental retardation" because strictly speaking that's not IQ related as such. MR can actually co-exist with average intelligence.

Now if you replaced MR with intellectual disability (or intellectual retardation if you like) that would be more accurate. That's certainly the way DHS in Victoria treats it.

Yes I have just checked out one of their fact sheets
here

Things to remember

Intellectual disability is common.
People with an intellectual disability often learn slowly, but can adapt to new situations and enjoy usual life experiences.
Terms like 'mental retardation' are inappropriate.
There are many resources available in the community to help people with intellectual disabilities to lead independent lives.

But it does kind of puzzle me why they are using that term in the Complete List of DSM-IV Codes

here and here

I now stand corrected, and I am now aware there is a recent name change here Mental Retardation no more

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Washington, DC (February 20, 2007)—After almost 5 decades of being called Mental Retardation, this influential journal in special education changed names to Intellectual & Developmental Disabilities under the leadership of Editor Steven J. Taylor. The journal's name change is a microcosm of society's ongoing struggle to find a socially acceptable way of addressing persons with an intellectual disability. The new name comes close on the heels of the name change of its publisher, the American Association on Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities, formerly AAMR, the world's oldest organization representing professionals in developmental disabilities.

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01 Feb 2008, 7:53 am

LostInSpace wrote:

Wow, what test were you given? 1/50 is 132 (I think) on the Wechsler tests. 148 is rarer than 1 in 1000 on those tests. Yours must have had a very different scale.

Cattell & Cattell Culture Fair is used by the Finnish Mensa. The psychologists still use Wechsler.

I think I scored 148 on a Wechler test, but I'm not sure, and in any case it was an Internet test. It was on some blue-themed site dedicated to the test. There was a converter and 148 I typed in was equal to 161 on Cattell scale. Comparing your 132 to my 148 and 148 to 161, it seems to have been Wechler, unless there are similar scales.

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01 Feb 2008, 6:53 pm

Keoren wrote:

LostInSpace wrote:

Wow, what test were you given? 1/50 is 132 (I think) on the Wechsler tests. 148 is rarer than 1 in 1000 on those tests. Yours must have had a very different scale.

If you took it online, it couldn't have been a Wechsler test. The Wechsler IQ tests, which is the WISC-IV for children and the WAIS for adults, can only be administered in person. There are manipulatives, motor speed tests, parts that are read aloud, etc. Internet tests aren't very reliable, by the way. They tend to inflate scores. The Cattell is a much more reliable test. I'm not too familiar with it though, because it is not administered too often in the US.

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01 Feb 2008, 11:45 pm

Can anyone tell what these cubes are called?
I have to solve puzzles with them on my last IQ test
BTW I breezed through them

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02 Feb 2008, 2:42 am

LostInSpace wrote:

Thank you. Am really not familiar with the scales. In any case, I'm currently taking a Wechsler IQ test (WAIS) in the meetings with my psychologist. Half one was completed in the last session and the second half to be in the next. Seeing how I don't really trust the internet tests either (tend to be too easy for one), despite the results being very similar all over the place, I'm also thinking of giving the Mensa test a try.

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Can anyone tell what these cubes are called?
I have to solve puzzles with them on my last IQ test
BTW I breezed through them

Had to build with those exact cubes so I'd expect it to be the same test, or rather, part of it.

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02 Feb 2008, 1:16 pm

paulsinnerchild wrote:

Can anyone tell what these cubes are called?
I have to solve puzzles with them on my last IQ test
BTW I breezed through them

Well, when you buy them as a puzzle, they're usually called "Tangrams." Those sorts of blocks are used on the Wechlser tests as part of the "Block Design" subtest.

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02 Feb 2008, 1:21 pm

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Personally, I don't think "aspies" will have super-high IQs compared to the "normal" population (ratio of super high to super high in the two seperate populations that is); our cognitive pattern is far more splintered than "normal" people.

Above average at one thing, below average at another; this is what a clinical psychologist told me anyway.

Agreed, I failed the cognitive portion of my IQ test, but still scored a 145.

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02 Feb 2008, 11:30 pm

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Danielismyname wrote:

Agreed, I failed the cognitive portion of my IQ test, but still scored a 145.

I'm confused. You can't fail an IQ test. Do you mean your overall score was poor? And the whole thing tests cognition, more or less. Do you mean you scored highly in one subtest?

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02 Feb 2008, 11:43 pm

LostInSpace wrote:

Microban wrote:

Danielismyname wrote:

Agreed, I failed the cognitive portion of my IQ test, but still scored a 145.

I'm confused. You can't fail an IQ test. Do you mean your overall score was poor? And the whole thing tests cognition, more or less. Do you mean you scored highly in one subtest?

Oh, sorry. Yes, I did poorly in one section of the test.

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03 Feb 2008, 8:09 am

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03 Feb 2008, 8:48 am

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The online ones are completely full of absolute s**t. Don't even go near them.

There are a few good practice sites out there that are written by high iq societies. but NEVER pay for an IQ test online.

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03 Feb 2008, 11:28 am

Microban wrote:

LostInSpace wrote:

Microban wrote:

Danielismyname wrote:

Agreed, I failed the cognitive portion of my IQ test, but still scored a 145.

I'm confused. You can't fail an IQ test. Do you mean your overall score was poor? And the whole thing tests cognition, more or less. Do you mean you scored highly in one subtest?

Oh, sorry. Yes, I did poorly in one section of the test.

Ahhh, gotcha. Yes, I can sympathize with that. My highest performance subtest score was still more than 2 standard deviations (thirty points) below my lowest verbal subtest score, and overall, there was a spread of three standard deviations (45 points) between my highest and lowest subtest scores.

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03 Feb 2008, 4:12 pm

IsotropicManifold wrote:

jawbrodt wrote:

The online ones are completely full of absolute sh**. Don't even go near them.

There are a few good practice sites out there that are written by high iq societies. but NEVER pay for an IQ test online.

I agree. There are NO proper IQ tests online. If you truly what your IQ tested, you have to find one through a psychologist.

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03 Feb 2008, 9:07 pm

my Verbal Comprehension (VCI) was 108
Perceptual Reasoning (PRI) was 100
Working Memory (WMI) was : 97
Processing Speed (PSI) was: 56

my full scale was: 90

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