Recovered autistics - Before and After videos

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im sure auto immune plays a factor in ASD which may be why these kids responded to something in the treatment... but i think it's something separate than the autism... as that is just a general way in which your brain works... perceives things.

i myself had rheumatoid arthritis (that went away by itself miraculously).... i've had issues with my tooth enamel... as well as some feminine issues that are yet to be resolved, most likely endometriosis.... all these things are linked with auto immune responses.

edit: and i believe i'm AS......... just to tie it together ^^

One theory (related to CFS) is that mercury causes immune dysfunction that increases susceptibility to infections. Mercury may not allow some children to fight off viruses (such as measles) in vaccines that may then cause autism.

I believe in helping people by treating symptoms they find undesirable regardless of whether they are related to ASDs or not. NTs are being treated for the same problems as autistics. Some people seem to think that vitamin deficiencies should be treated in NTs but not in autistics. That's what I have a problem with.

Go to http://www.recoveryvideos.com/ and click on Autism.

but what's the ratio of NTs vs Autistics that have poisoning? it may just be that autistics have greater suseptability to the poisoning.... and you're not curing the autism.... which is what these treatments are claiming.

im for improving symptoms as well... i just don't like that they're attaching the "Autism Cure" tag to it to get more PR and glory.

Based on over 25,000 parent responses of trying various treatments, chelation was rates most effective. 73% of 627 autistics improved with chelation although it wasn't given randomally. They got chelation when their doctors suspected mercury may be a problem. http://www.autism.com/treatable/form34qr.htm

but even as you said... it's all about susceptibility....... so perhaps there are "undiagnosed NTs"

im glad this treatment may alleviate some more severe symptoms that the autistics experience due to their susceptibility issues... but you're not curing autism

Some of these treatments only treat the cause of one autistic symptom and have no effect on any of the other symptoms. NTs who only have one symptom of autism wouldn't qualify for a diagnosis but could still treat the symptom. Many of these doctors don't care about a person's diagnosis. Instead, they ask about symptoms and then look for causes of each symptom. For example, some treatments that help autistics with "restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior" also work for NTs diagnosed with OCD.

A bunch of Curbie quackery.

I am saying Autism is always genetic and that removing mercury and viruses does not make an autistic person become NT. Fish has mercury in but its not making lots of Japanese Autistic. Just because something can be seen to make changes in behaviour it doesnt make it a cure. There is no end of chemicals we can consume or remove completely from our body and doing so will have positive and/or negative effects but this can happen to all organisms including the perfectly healthy.

You can find some miracle treatment to make an Autistic more sociable or even behave normal... but they are not NT. They are merely affected by a treatment in a way that is approved of by NTs.

About parents being the best judges of their autistic children's improvements--

A bunch of years ago some people decided that non verbal autistic people were very good readers and writers but they just didn't have the motor control to epress themselves. They needed people to guide their hands to make their hands steady and they'd write out what they wanted to say on a comminication board.

It was debunked, eventually. It was shown that all the amazing prose that the kids were typing out was the facilitators' own words and the kids' hands were acting like oijua boards. I was around a lot of parents who went off the deep end about this. They treated their kids differently, too because they finally gave their kids the respect of being individuals with their own thoughts and ideas. Of course, the kids changed because the parental attitudes toward them changed.

I don't trust parents' reports about how their kids improve with the current treatments in vogue. I've seen close up what wishful thinking does to one's objectvity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facilitated_communication

You can disagree with me all you want, you are entitled your opinion, but DO NOT take my words, and mangle them into something that I didn't say. I didn't say that those with ASD that have stomach issues shouldn't get the same treatments that NTs would in regard to diets. Nowhere in my post do I say that.

I do believe that people can recover, but 20 days seems like an awfully short time frame. Only hard work and dedication on the part of parents, supportive friends and professionals, and the determination of the person himself/herself to succeed against the odds makes this possible. Even if a person still demonstrates autistic/AS traits, that doesn't preclude success in life. Many people in the past were considered "quirky," but achieved great things.

I watched two of the videos. NEITHER appeared to have autism! They appeared DRUGED! They also IMPLIED things, rather than showing them. Like the part where a person supposedly calls the kid who is shown not responding. That is OUT OF CONTEXT! How are we to know what happened?

At least autism speaks shows enough to let you know some of them have autistic behaviour. And, GUESS WHAT! The autism speaks behaviour seems more stereotypically autistic.

And do you think ANYONE on this forum acts like ethan or Baxter in the before ones? I doubt anyone even really acted like them when they were kids.

I could produce before and after videos too.
I could produce before videos that are "before" I knew anything was "wrong" with my son. Before vaccinations but still very autistic! I just didn't know it yet.

I've known too many people that poured money down the drain, literally, with detox baths, supplements, HBOT, Son-Rise, you name it. Then the thing that "cracked the code", so to speak, was teaching sign language.

I turned from being Low Functioning to a High Functioning Autistic without the treatments. I think it is an option, but I think early intervention is key, not the treatments.