PSYCHOLOGIST MADE A FOOL OUT OF ME
What a sh*tty way to treat a patient, AS or not! Part of this is the 'fad' going on right now with people thinking they might have some kind of ASD &/or Aspergers. When they hear a new patient bring up the subject and start quoting DSM-IV criteria, they think, "Here we go with another one..."
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Well, they could AT LEAST give a person a little checklist and say "If you match the criteria HERE, THEN we can talk." The checklist could include things like:
BEFORE you were 8 and as early as you can remember, please give detail where you can....
1. Did you seem arrogant or rude, even though you simply said the truth?
2. Did you have trouble making friends, even though you thought you acted civily, etc...?
3. Did you play with other kids?
4. Did you always seem interested in things odd for your age?
5. Did you seem to understand things others didn't, and vice/versa?
6. Did you always seem more or less sensitive to Light, Cold, Touch, Sound than other kids?
7. Was your early vocabulary advanced, compared to others your age?
8. Did you seem to lack emotion to others, or inable to detect others emotion?
9. Did you have strong interests you were basically OBSESSED with?
10. Did your parents notice significantly advanced or delayed development before you were 3?
A LOT of people would probably stop within the first few items.
My answers, not boring you with detail, would be YES,YES,Not generally,YES,YES,YES,YES,Sometimes,YES,YES.
Granted not everyone that has an ASD will answer these the same way, even in general, and there are other questions one might ask. I thought 10 questions is simple. I picked 8 because it is about when things REALLY change, and it is a span of life anyone should remember. Some texts say some AS problems don't become obvious until about 6 or 7. That probably IS the time when they first generally have a chance at becoming obvious.
BTW I was laughed at by a doctor when I merely ASKED for tests like "lyme disease". I had symptoms that COULD have been lyme disease, I was in areas where they HAVE had lyme disease, and any symptoms I was "missing" were not consistent. I would have INSISTED on the test except the doctor told me it cost a LOT! Hard to believe, for a blood test.
Rather than making fun of me, they should have suggested a BETTER option. 75% of the problems I have had I had to figure out MYSELF!
I have a long reportoire with psychologists in practically every corner of my state.
They treat you with condescension and with arrogance and I felt my condition EXACERBATE rather then improve.
In hindsight, I learned not to trust "professionals" because they regurgitate college textbooks and instruction.
Of course society is unbelievable so remember psychologists think in NT terms and it's like speaking Quechua to them, well at least for me.
I learned (i am forced) to evalute myself once in while, because the awful truth is nobody else can in this NT world.
As many people have said already, the psychologist could be wrong. Here is the deal with the DSM-IV ----> it's the professionals perception of what they are seeing before them. So this psychologist doesn't perceive you have aspergers...but then the next 2 psychologists do....then the next 4 or 5 don't....etc. You can have a ROOM full of professionals and get a different diagnosis from every single one of them. Try not to take it personally. Just try to find a professional who you feel is a good match for you, let them get to know you, and see what they have to say. I think it would take more than just a few appointments to get an accurate diagnosis.
Dawn
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I will answer it best as I can, from memory.
2. Did you have trouble making friends, even though you thought you acted civily, etc...? Yes
3. Did you play with other kids? Yes
4. Did you always seem interested in things odd for your age? Yes
5. Did you seem to understand things others didn't, and vice/versa? Yes
6. Did you always seem more or less sensitive to Light, Cold, Touch, Sound than other kids? Yes
7. Was your early vocabulary advanced, compared to others your age? Yes
8. Did you seem to lack emotion to others, No or inable to detect others emotion? Sometimes
9. Did you have strong interests you were basically OBSESSED with? No
10. Did your parents notice significantly advanced or delayed development before you were 3? Yes
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Taking a break.
1. Did you seem arrogant or rude, even though you simply said the truth? Yes, or misunderstood.
2. Did you have trouble making friends, even though you thought you acted civily, etc...? Yes, extremely difficult.
3. Did you play with other kids? Sometimes, though I was as likely to be reading, or staring at the trees, or looking for iron pyrite.
4. Did you always seem interested in things odd for your age? Yes.
5. Did you seem to understand things others didn't, and vice/versa? Yes.
6. Did you always seem more or less sensitive to Light, Cold, Touch, Sound than other kids? Yes.
7. Was your early vocabulary advanced, compared to others your age? Yes, advanced w/ speech impediments.
8. Did you seem to lack emotion to others, or inable to detect others emotion? I felt detached and didn't know how to respond.
9. Did you have strong interests you were basically OBSESSED with? Yes, yes, yes.
10. Did your parents notice significantly advanced or delayed development before you were 3? Somewhat, yes.
M.
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For those who seek an alternative, it is coming.
So long, and thanks for all the fish!
Well, they could AT LEAST give a person a little checklist and say "If you match the criteria HERE, THEN we can talk." The checklist could include things like:
BEFORE you were 8 and as early as you can remember, please give detail where you can....
1. Did you seem arrogant or rude, even though you simply said the truth?
2. Did you have trouble making friends, even though you thought you acted civily, etc...?
3. Did you play with other kids?
4. Did you always seem interested in things odd for your age?
5. Did you seem to understand things others didn't, and vice/versa?
6. Did you always seem more or less sensitive to Light, Cold, Touch, Sound than other kids?
7. Was your early vocabulary advanced, compared to others your age?
8. Did you seem to lack emotion to others, or inable to detect others emotion?
9. Did you have strong interests you were basically OBSESSED with?
10. Did your parents notice significantly advanced or delayed development before you were 3?
A LOT of people would probably stop within the first few items.
You'd expect a not yet 8 year old aspie to recognize it when other people see him/her as arrogant? Do you expect them to know if their interests would seem odd for their age? Do you think they'd be aware of 'lacking' emotion to, or interest in others?
If anything, someone on the spectrum could not answer these questions with yes, simply because most of them involve being aware of others and their thoughts. Your list is not particularly useful.
They called me a knowitall, rude, etc... And accused me of interrupting all the time(EVEN when I was merely finishing what I started)! So "expect an 8yo to recognize it?" Maybe NOT! It is actually MORE meaningful if s/he finds out from OTHERS!
BTW about the knowitall comment? I ALWAYS said I didn't know everything! MANY TODAY have said I seem to. I get paid for telling people things I could probably have told them when I was 5. My parents call me for advice/info on LOTS of things. I never knew EVERYTHING, but I knew a lot.
When others eyes glaze over or they say "YOU CAN'T KNOW THAT" or they believe you don't know about something, or all the books you see on the subject are for ADULTS, I would say that is a clear indication the interest is unusual for your age.
When you are constantly queried on how you feel, or accused of not feeling a way when you do, or not feeling dispair when everyone else seems to, though you cared a LOT for the person, that gives a good idea of the disparity in emotion.
If my list were perfect, there would be no reason to go to a psychiatrist. I never said it was perfect. In fact, I said it wasn't!
Still, it is FAR better than you seem to believe.
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Last edited by Zwerfbeertje on 31 May 2008, 9:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
They actually have screening tools for AS.... the problem is... normal psychs aren't using them...
There is a screening checklist that is free from our state autism society (called CARD - the society, not the checklist) you can have them send it to you and send it back and they will evaluate it.... the issue there is that it is for parents to fill out for children...
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