Why would some people be ashmed to have an Aut spectrum baby

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19 Dec 2008, 1:25 am

I'm about the same level of impairment as Rain Man in the movie; he can do some things I can't do, and I can do some things he can't do. Of note, the movie depiction of Rain Man is accurate for autism; it wasn't just based on Kim Peek (the amazing rote memory was), it was based on many autistic individuals.

My mother isn't ashamed of me; she knows I'll be living with her for a long, long time, and if she dies before me, I get the house--I can do your basic stuff as long as I have a routine.



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19 Dec 2008, 1:29 am

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I'm about the same level of impairment as Rain Man in the movie; he can do some things I can't do, and I can do some things he can't do. Of note, the movie depiction of Rain Man is accurate for autism; it wasn't just based on Kim Peek (the amazing rote memory was), it was based on many autistic individuals.

My mother isn't ashamed of me; she knows I'll be living with her for a long, long time, and if she dies before me, I get the house--I can do your basic stuff as long as I have a routine.


Wow i want your mother lol, im always afriad if my mother dies, what will happen to me, if food isnt provided i die for example, so what will be come of me, i always wonder that.


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19 Dec 2008, 1:43 am

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Wow i want your mother lol, im always afriad if my mother dies, what will happen to me, if food isnt provided i die for example, so what will be come of me, i always wonder that.


It's just her and me here. My father left us, and my sister has her own family and life (in other words, everyone thinks that it's fair that I get this place if my mother dies before me). O, and my mother is a beautiful person.

The grocery store down the road delivers, and they know what we order (plus, they're going on the 'net soon); I won't eat or prepare anything flash, but I can open tins and eat from them, as well as do other basic stuff like washing myself (I probably wouldn't clean my teeth if my mother didn't get it all ready for me, however). I can survive, it's just not "normal". Utensils? Who needs those. Plates? Blah. Clothes? I don't wear much if it's just me.

My writing probably paints a picture that people can't equate with someone like the fictional depiction of Rain Man, but reading and writing hasn't been my problem for a long time, and they aren't related to self-help skills.



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19 Dec 2008, 1:25 pm

O, and I must add, there's nothing tragic at all having a level of impairment similar to Rain Man; well, unless you expect him [and me] to be "normal", and that's when it's tragic as he has things that normal people will never experience, and vice-versa--both are unique ways of living, and forcing someone to live how they can't live is the tragic part (one can't force an NT to sit and count buttons all day, but if that is what makes the autistic individual happy, so be it--I did this when younger, and it was far, far more enjoyable to me than the things I saw other kids doing).

There's several members here who have a similar or greater level of impairment than he does (whether their label is AS or LFA), and they're unique individuals who have things to say that are just as valid as any NT.



19 Dec 2008, 3:21 pm

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I'm about the same level of impairment as Rain Man in the movie; he can do some things I can't do, and I can do some things he can't do. Of note, the movie depiction of Rain Man is accurate for autism; it wasn't just based on Kim Peek (the amazing rote memory was), it was based on many autistic individuals.

My mother isn't ashamed of me; she knows I'll be living with her for a long, long time, and if she dies before me, I get the house--I can do your basic stuff as long as I have a routine.


Wow i want your mother lol, im always afriad if my mother dies, what will happen to me, if food isnt provided i die for example, so what will be come of me, i always wonder that.




You have your boyfriend. He can take care of you right?

From what I've read by you, he sounds like a supporting guy and takes good care of you.



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20 Dec 2008, 10:56 am

If I had a kid, I hope that in a way it would have mild autism. Mild enough that it would still be able to function, but not light enough that it would have the annoying NT need for trendy fashion and approval of teenage peers. I didn't need those when I was a teen, and I hope that any kid I have follows in mommy's footsteps.



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20 Dec 2008, 11:09 am

ShadesOfMe, there are many people out there whom parent-wise feel they not want their child(ren) to grow up being taunted or going through some unpleasant experinces in the form of bullyism and such.. I don't have children but, If I did I'd do my best to help them to learn and understand themselves and the world around them as well, remind them being different in any sense is not a curse or some dreadful disease or whatever the "NT" world wants to make conjecture about the cause of Autism and it's variants. Personally, for years I've struggled both academically & socially yet, I've not given up despite the tall mountains of the neuro typical world and landscape.



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20 Dec 2008, 11:25 am

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Wow i want your mother lol, im always afriad if my mother dies, what will happen to me, if food isnt provided i die for example, so what will be come of me, i always wonder that.


It's just her and me here. My father left us, and my sister has her own family and life (in other words, everyone thinks that it's fair that I get this place if my mother dies before me). O, and my mother is a beautiful person.

The grocery store down the road delivers, and they know what we order (plus, they're going on the 'net soon); I won't eat or prepare anything flash, but I can open tins and eat from them, as well as do other basic stuff like washing myself (I probably wouldn't clean my teeth if my mother didn't get it all ready for me, however). I can survive, it's just not "normal". Utensils? Who needs those. Plates? Blah. Clothes? I don't wear much if it's just me.

My writing probably paints a picture that people can't equate with someone like the fictional depiction of Rain Man, but reading and writing hasn't been my problem for a long time, and they aren't related to self-help skills.


Oh wow, we need a grocery store that delivers haha, we usually go shoppin only at night, the whole place knows me, so its nice and easy.

I also don't like when ppl refer autism to rainman, i do have moments where i talk like rainman, act like rainman, but never ever met an autistic like rainman ever. i'm around autistics allll the time, and can honestly tell ya neverr seen an autistic like rainman, iamsam, snowcake, mercury rising, evvver. Seen some who have charateristics of them, but defintely nothing like them. in fact what i notice with most all autistics is the back and forth game is played among many low functioning auties, like touch your forehead walk away, grab ur hand to touch their forehead, or push you away, pull you back.

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Danielismyname wrote:
I'm about the same level of impairment as Rain Man in the movie; he can do some things I can't do, and I can do some things he can't do. Of note, the movie depiction of Rain Man is accurate for autism; it wasn't just based on Kim Peek (the amazing rote memory was), it was based on many autistic individuals.

My mother isn't ashamed of me; she knows I'll be living with her for a long, long time, and if she dies before me, I get the house--I can do your basic stuff as long as I have a routine.


Wow i want your mother lol, im always afriad if my mother dies, what will happen to me, if food isnt provided i die for example, so what will be come of me, i always wonder that.




You have your boyfriend. He can take care of you right?

From what I've read by you, he sounds like a supporting guy and takes good care of you.


Yea i always wonder if it'll happen as smoothly as he says it will. I cant ever handle moving, or anything, so the future is still so iffy for me. I'm hoping and praying my mother leaves the house to me, and my bf can take care of me here? who knows. He wants a family, wants to have his own house, and i feel like him staying with me is just not good idea for him, having my own house not the one im in now will be wayyy too hard for me, having a family is prob going to be the next biggest thing to worry about, as much as i love to, its going to be extremely hard.


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20 Dec 2008, 11:30 am

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Yes, probably the best thing to do lionesss. Maybe they would learn more that way---if they cared enough to look. Autism is so misunderstood by the general population isn't it? I will say there are a fair amount of NTs here in this site that seem to know a lot about it. But until a person is like us, how can they ever know.

Just saw on your profile that you are an astrologer. That sounds interesting and neat. I remember this little astrology computer I had when I was a child. You plugged your birthday and the day's date into it, and it gave you these codes that you matched up in a book that told you your horoscope. Of course, that was only a game for fun---different from how astrologers would do it.


Yes I am an astrologer. Really, a perfect job for me :D And those horoscopes are always fun to read, the ones in the newspaper and the computer you were talking about. I admit those are fun!

Anyway the fact of the matter is, plenty of people will remain ignorant about autism and that may not change. If some people are that ignorant, many times they will remain that way. Some do, however change... and form an open mind, of course if something provokes it to happen. Like finding out their child or loved one has autism. But only so much awareness could be spread.. and hopefully in time it will make a little bit more of a difference. And hey, from what I have read recently, Rainman wasn't really autistic. He had savant abilities... and resembled someone like him in real life.. I think his name is Kim Peek? He developed those skills because of having a super strong long term memory, once he learned something he absorbed it for good.. but simple things he could not comprehend.


ACTUALLY, Kim Peek is BETTER than rainman! SAME ability to remember, and possibly add, FEWER restrictions on his schedule, eating habits, etc.... No ecolalia. Dustin Hofman just used SOME aspects of kim peek.



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20 Dec 2008, 11:39 am

My son's autism is very mild and chances are he will live independently, in fact therapists who work with him have also said so, and I believe it. He is VERY high functioning.. but I admit I am a lot more terrified of what he will go through during school, especially middle school since that was hell for me. Lets face it, there is still a lot of ignorance and there always will be.. I really hope I am wrong but he may have a very hard time being accepted by his peers :cry: It's a cruel harsh world out there.. and kids are cruel and I know he will be facing some bullying (he is 4.5 now) but next year he will be mainstreamed with an aid to a typical kindergarten class.. not overly concerned about that but the later years will be challenging.



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20 Dec 2008, 12:37 pm

Age1600,

Simon from Mercury Rising is a fairly decent depiction of someone with autism I'm familiar with (i.e., mine); he has special skills, but that's only a small portion of his autism. Rain Man is a good depiction of someone who displays all of the symptoms; the social impairment, communication difficulties and repetitive behaviours. He's the same as me in outcome (I show all of the symptoms too); I can talk better than he can, but he has the special skills, and he can go to places where I'd never go (see: casino, and also being dragged across the state).

Whilst I'm probably "severe" for someone with AS (most of the people on this forum); I'm "high-functioning" for someone with Autism (they told me this at diagnosis--it was in-depth, with the things I can and can't do taken into account).



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20 Dec 2008, 1:30 pm

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Simon from Mercury Rising is a fairly decent depiction of someone with autism I'm familiar with (i.e., mine); he has special skills, but that's only a small portion of his autism. Rain Man is a good depiction of someone who displays all of the symptoms; the social impairment, communication difficulties and repetitive behaviours. He's the same as me in outcome (I show all of the symptoms too); I can talk better than he can, but he has the special skills, and he can go to places where I'd never go (see: casino, and also being dragged across the state).

Whilst I'm probably "severe" for someone with AS (most of the people on this forum); I'm "high-functioning" for someone with Autism (they told me this at diagnosis--it was in-depth, with the things I can and can't do taken into account).


See i wasn't basing it on their social skills or repetitive behavior, more along the lines as they appear, like for instance, i have never ever met a kid who walks around with his eyes staring upwards who talks backwards but if you get him to give you eye contact he talks normal, i think thatll be interesting to meet a kid like that. I talk sometimes with my eyes upwards but not differently from them downwards if that makes any sense. As for rainman, yes seen many people with his social skills or repetitive behavior, but never actually met someone who is overall that blank expression or seem like a robot. To tell ya the truth, never met an autistic who doesnt have some form of personality shining through. Even the kids with brain damage, or who are basically catatonic show more expression then rainman ever does. In real life rainman shows more expression Thats why i dont like rainman or mercury rising as a reference to autism always. I remember somebody telling me but you have facial expressions, even if its always changing and making no sense you have spunk anybody can see it in ur face, as with rainman, nothings there, always the same way. I was like thats rainman, not me, sorry haha.

I'm also in ur catagory, more severe then aspergers, but more on the HF side of autism despite what doctors have told me. I know im much different from a lot of autistics, but have so much of others traits, my social skills & communication skills are low, along with my emotional level, as my stimming and self injurious level is high, i can seem at times very nt, and other times very lfa. Instead of me seeming very off or like a wall when interacting, i seem rather extremely immature, very childlike, and sometimes extremely aloof that theres no interaction at all. I dont really ignore ppl as many autistics always do, instead i'm a constant sensory seeker so i will do things as grab ur hands, rub ur jacket, grab ur hair as ur walking by, headbutt you, and if i do ignore you its mainly because my sensory is taken care of otherwise through my phone, pot, vibrating teething ring, etc... A lot of my actions are rather inappropriate, and don't always seem as autistic, like for instance ill grab ur arm and swing from it randomly as ur talking, its not really seen as autistic, instead seen as verrry immature. I can crave attention for hours especially to seek out sensory, unlike a lot of auties who rather be perfectly fine in their own world 24/7. I can spend literally months in my own world, especially if i have all the sensory i need, but if not im out lookin for it from ppl lol. I don't do it though to satsify a social need, or a friendship, or anything, rather just mainly sensory related. If you hang with me for a day, your even start treating me like a toddler, like mostly everybody does because of how I am.


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21 Dec 2008, 3:46 am

I'm about as robotic as Rain Man from the film; I'm probably more robotic in appearance as I don't panic like he does (I withdraw and stop interacting with those few I can interact with). People with AS can have no facial expression at all, and the best most can do is smile at everything, as well as the robotic voice (it's usually not as robotic sounding as someone with Autism, but it's possible). He talks more to people he doesn't know than I do, but I speak better to those I know than he does (I can give a slow and controlled response to a question, with a delay in starting it, of course, as I need to think it through, like with typing).

I also stare up at things like Simon does--he speaks the same when the teacher asks him to look at her as he does before; slow and to the point. In my case, I was constantly getting in trouble by teachers for supposedly rolling my eyes (I wasn't, I was just avoiding eye contact by staring at the lights on the ceiling). I also speak slowly like he does.

I think another member said such, and I agree with her: if you see one person with autism, that's all you're seeing, as everyone manifests the core symptoms differently.

O, and my psychiatrist said that the high-functioning label I was given was below Asperger's, whether severe or not, but better than someone who can't wash themselves for example (I only have problems with cleaning my teeth in regards to hygiene); this fits in with people like Attwood who say that AS is a higher-functioning form of HFA, but still the same disorder.