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26 Dec 2008, 2:54 pm

im a girl and didnt know i was an aspie till i had my 3rd child who was nt, the other 2 are on the spectrum somewhere or other, and i realsie i couldnt cope with a normal child at all! so i did well at the pretendingto be normal thing, cos everyone thought i was! love knowing the truth now, cos it explains so much....mostly my annoyance/difficulties with friend ships, and the fact that i am really clever, stupidly so, but never actually achieved anything other than a levels!



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26 Dec 2008, 6:20 pm

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ah I'm just scared, becuz I am waiting for my diagnositic appointment & I'm terrified they'll tell me I'm not autistic, just incompetent and selfish, immature, horrible person who needs therapy which is what everyone else seems to be telling me. I feel safer reading about people who see things the way I do.


I'm having some of that same anxiety, waiting for my follow-up with the neurologist on the 2nd.

Well, Tiff and I wouldn't mind having a roommate and have had horrid luck with NT roommates thus far. If you ever find yourself in the area around Dallas, drop me a line, we might consider a roommate situation. The job issue seems like more of an issue to me -- and it's been more of an issue in my life in general as well. And admittedly, that complicates the whole roommate idea, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's out of the question.


Hey, wierder things have happened :D. I've been thinking that it would be very cool to try to live at least a few monthes in each of the 50 states anyway. :D So I will keep your invitation in mind for future adventures! :)

(also, I can GET jobs, and just cant seem to keep them long. I either totally freak out & quit or get fired cuz of getting late or forgetting what I am supposed to be doing... and they never wanna just write me a list! Nooooo, that would be too hard for them :X)



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26 Dec 2008, 6:21 pm

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:D I wanted to be a boy growing up. It seemed a lot easier, my mom had all these rules for how I should act that my brothers didn't have to follow and I couldnt figure out why I had to. Like, "why can a boy go shirtless and not me??"


Actually there are some places where you can legally go topless now.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 05x3548946

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topless


I'd rather just be naked at home... people dont stare as much at what they dont see :D



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26 Dec 2008, 6:29 pm

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i thought i was a boy. except my body was different. adolscence was hell from that perspective also.


It's interesting that a lot of you are saying that you wanted to be a boy/or thought you were a boy.
I used to be FtM Transgender for 4 years (13-17) so yea... pretty much all my teen years were hell too.

Charlie x


how do you mean "used" to be? (I dont know if I'm misinterpreting your definition) I thought changing your gender is pretty permanent? Or do you mean with clothes? (not "drag" per se, but trying to alter other peoples perception of your "sexual/gender" reality?)



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26 Dec 2008, 6:39 pm

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ah I'm just scared, becuz I am waiting for my diagnositic appointment & I'm terrified they'll tell me I'm not autistic, just incompetent and selfish, immature, horrible person who needs therapy which is what everyone else seems to be telling me. I feel safer reading about people who see things the way I do.


what, like being labelled with the 5 personality disorders I had before my shrink actually woke up and realised 'hey, this person has Asperger's!?
I've been through psych hell over the last few years... especially this year... went into a psychiatric ward for a week before they kicked me out and I had a meltdown... a major meltdown.. Psych units are NO places for Aspies.
Then when I came out, I got labelled with Borderline PD, Schizoid PD, Schizotypal PD, Histrionic PD and Narcessistic PD.

I don't want to scare you! :-/
Good luck with your diagnostic assessment. :-) I hope your professionals listen to you.

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Actually I started looking for help in college becuz I was supposed to be sooo smart but for some reason I was failing sooooo spectaculary, so I visited the uni pshychiatrist (the kind that give drugs?), who sent me to a pediatric psychologist (? the kind that talks) who told me that I was either majorly deppresive or I obviously had ADD becuz of how I talk and communicate info (no eye contact, looking around, getting distracted with what I'm trying to say which are only things I do when I am extremly stressed) & she said that I needed drugs to help me be more coherent and connected so that she could help me so she sent me to another doctor, who would PAT ME ON THE HEAD!! !! ! (as if I were a small child or pet! She said I was "cute"!) and she seemed intent on diagnosing me according to my reaction to the various drugs she was sticking me full of (example: One of the meds for depression gave me internal/intestinal bleeding and since it wasn't on the side effects list she seemed to decide it meant that I couldn't be depressed so she started me on I think, Stratera? some kind of drug for adults with ADD that gave me really severe tics, dry heaving & pretty much left me comatose 75% of the day.)

About that point I was too terified to mention that I was OCD & having some severe social anxiety and stopped going completely & just focused on trying to behave appropriate (practising expressions using the mirror and taking photos, learning to aspirate when talking to make sure I was actually expelling sound, etc.)

I'm sorry you ended up in a psych unit, I freak out just being at the Dr's office so I cant even imagine how horrible that must have been, but at least you found out eventually.



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26 Dec 2008, 7:00 pm

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I find this topic interesting because I find that many of the aspie traits boys/men have, I seem to share... for example... I read soemwhere that men/boys seem to be very obsessed with sex.. I'm like that... I'm almost the total opisite of a lot of AS girls.



This thing about men being more obsessed with sex than women is a myth, I think. It's just that it has always been socially acceptable to for men to be sexual beings. Female sexuality is so taboo, girls aren't even taught words for their own "parts" or how their bodies work (other than the basic reproductive stuff). Women are said to want "romance" and "love", because for so long it's been taboo to even consider the idea that a woman might actually desire sex. I think more women and girls are obsessed with sex that you'd think; it's just that they don't talk about it, or if they do talk about it, they put it in the context of relationships and romance, because THAT is what is considered socially acceptable. Also, an AS girl might think of herself as uninterested in sex, because she equates that with relationships and romance, rather than the feelings in her own body, because a girl/woman is not "supposed" to think of her own body in that way. Again, it's how we are conditioned. Remnants of the Victorian era, I suppose. I hope that makes some sense, without crossing any "lines."


Hehe I've been reading something about this lately. About how feminism and the demand for equal rights has turned into the right to f**k indiscriminately... or something like that. Anyway, there are sex loving women every where (porn stars, actress, models, musician, reality tv "stars", those girls gone wild chicks, etc.) and it seems to me that the "ability" to have sex with whoever you want seems to have turned into a power thing, of course with women, it seems that if you actually act on this new "feminist" desires, you end up actually undermining your authenticity somehow....
course I am myself totally confused by this subject so maybe I am misunderstanding it.



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26 Dec 2008, 7:09 pm

msinglynx wrote:
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i thought i was a boy. except my body was different. adolscence was hell from that perspective also.


It's interesting that a lot of you are saying that you wanted to be a boy/or thought you were a boy.
I used to be FtM Transgender for 4 years (13-17) so yea... pretty much all my teen years were hell too.

Charlie x


how do you mean "used" to be? (I dont know if I'm misinterpreting your definition) I thought changing your gender is pretty permanent? Or do you mean with clothes? (not "drag" per se, but trying to alter other peoples perception of your "sexual/gender" reality?)


The operation is permanent. But you're considered to be transgender both before and after the operation. So there's a period of time before the operation in which you could decide that you were wrong about the intensity of those feelings (or maybe the intensity actually changed) and that you no longer want to go through with the operation. This is the first time I'd heard of anyone expressing that those feelings were temporary, but I suppose it must happen from time to time, people get caught up in an idea for a while and then later realize that it's not really what they want after all. It just means she didn't get the operation and has decided against getting it in the future in general.


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26 Dec 2008, 7:20 pm

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Hey, wierder things have happened :D. I've been thinking that it would be very cool to try to live at least a few monthes in each of the 50 states anyway. :D So I will keep your invitation in mind for future adventures! :)


This kind of gave me a chuckle. :) It's an interesting thought... I suspect it might get boring after a few states. I've lived in Texas, Florida, Colorado, Iowa, Virginia, Oregon and now Massachusetts. I can't say that there have been huge differences between them. The weather varies and some states have better laws and occasionally the people are liberal and relatively cool. The two places I would pick to stay would be Austin TX or Portland OR. But that's not going to happen because I need to be near my kids and they're with their mother in Dallas.

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(also, I can GET jobs, and just cant seem to keep them long. I either totally freak out & quit or get fired cuz of getting late or forgetting what I am supposed to be doing... and they never wanna just write me a list! Nooooo, that would be too hard for them :X)


My challenge is similar. I don't perceive that I need lists... but haven't been able to keep programming jobs -- except one that promised me way more than they were willing to actually give me, so I left because they were abusing me by not fulfilling their promise of salary. I'm very good at what I do, have been published in trade journals and other accolades that most people don't have -- generally more experienced than anyone else on a team once I've been hired. I just don't have a bachelors degree and as of yet haven't been able to "fit in" well enough to prevent the bosses from firing me more than once per year but not quite twice per year. When I was younger -- before I had enlisted in the Navy and before I started programming computers, I did quite a good number of minimum wage or close to minimum wage jobs due to social anxiety. I had an unexpected event after coming back from the Navy (after I washed out) that helped me a lot with the social anxiety.


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26 Dec 2008, 7:36 pm

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Hey, wierder things have happened :D. I've been thinking that it would be very cool to try to live at least a few monthes in each of the 50 states anyway. :D So I will keep your invitation in mind for future adventures! :)


This kind of gave me a chuckle. :) It's an interesting thought... I suspect it might get boring after a few states. I've lived in Texas, Florida, Colorado, Iowa, Virginia, Oregon and now Massachusetts. I can't say that there have been huge differences between them. The weather varies and some states have better laws and occasionally the people are liberal and relatively cool. The two places I would pick to stay would be Austin TX or Portland OR. But that's not going to happen because I need to be near my kids and they're with their mother in Dallas.

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(also, I can GET jobs, and just cant seem to keep them long. I either totally freak out & quit or get fired cuz of getting late or forgetting what I am supposed to be doing... and they never wanna just write me a list! Nooooo, that would be too hard for them :X)


My challenge is similar. I don't perceive that I need lists... but haven't been able to keep programming jobs -- except one that promised me way more than they were willing to actually give me, so I left because they were abusing me by not fulfilling their promise of salary. I'm very good at what I do, have been published in trade journals and other accolades that most people don't have -- generally more experienced than anyone else on a team once I've been hired. I just don't have a bachelors degree and as of yet haven't been able to "fit in" well enough to prevent the bosses from firing me more than once per year but not quite twice per year. When I was younger -- before I had enlisted in the Navy and before I started programming computers, I did quite a good number of minimum wage or close to minimum wage jobs due to social anxiety. I had an unexpected event after coming back from the Navy (after I washed out) that helped me a lot with the social anxiety.


The whole untied states seems foreign to me. I find the culture strange and irrational yet somehow intriguing.
But actually, since I would be more of a art/cultural tourist-resident I think maybe I will see things differently? At least I have notcied that art seems to change a great deal depending on location.



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26 Dec 2008, 7:43 pm

Art is only regional because it is to expensive to ship somewhere else.


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Art is only regional because it is to expensive to ship somewhere else.


THANK GOD!

Otherwise there would be absolutely no point in going some places :D



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27 Dec 2008, 12:55 am

msinglynx wrote:
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i thought i was a boy. except my body was different. adolscence was hell from that perspective also.


It's interesting that a lot of you are saying that you wanted to be a boy/or thought you were a boy.
I used to be FtM Transgender for 4 years (13-17) so yea... pretty much all my teen years were hell too.

Charlie x


how do you mean "used" to be? (I dont know if I'm misinterpreting your definition) I thought changing your gender is pretty permanent? Or do you mean with clothes? (not "drag" per se, but trying to alter other peoples perception of your "sexual/gender" reality?)


well I say used to be because I've not had surgery or anything like that.. for me it was my mind that was telling me I was a boy and for 4 years, I wanted surgery and hormones but obviously I was too young then.. but it's a good job I didn't go on hormones because I no longer feel that way.
I only wore boys clothes, and even bound my breasts. But I guess it was a phase I went through.. but I guess I became too obsessed with it... my mum said after the diagnoses of Asperger's that when I become obsessed with things I just sleep and breathe it and will usually carry it all through.. she said that I probably had mild thoughts of wanting to be a boy to begin with, but then I became obsessed with it and it got worse. I don't know.

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27 Dec 2008, 6:21 pm

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well I say used to be because I've not had surgery or anything like that.. for me it was my mind that was telling me I was a boy and for 4 years, I wanted surgery and hormones but obviously I was too young then.. but it's a good job I didn't go on hormones because I no longer feel that way.
I only wore boys clothes, and even bound my breasts. But I guess it was a phase I went through.. but I guess I became too obsessed with it... my mum said after the diagnoses of Asperger's that when I become obsessed with things I just sleep and breathe it and will usually carry it all through.. she said that I probably had mild thoughts of wanting to be a boy to begin with, but then I became obsessed with it and it got worse. I don't know.

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Actually I read something about Aspie kids (mostly boys) having more transgendered thoughts, like it is more common for us to be homo/bi sexual and to b confused about our orientation than for NT kids. But I cant remember where I read it, otherwise I'd post a link...



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27 Dec 2008, 7:09 pm

Don't really recognise traits of autism in myself, because my behavioiur seems normal to me, so I don't really know which bits are which, and I haven't read enough about it in the female form. Constantly ask Macbeth about random things, but he only knows it from a male point of view. There should be some sort of girl aspie group near me or something, that would be niice anyway.

Hopefully, when the appointment for counselling finally arrives, they will be able to identify them and inform me.


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