What is the best country for Aspies to live in?

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30 Apr 2009, 9:37 am

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I cannot justify having to spend money on seeing a doctor.


Me neither. I havent paid a penny for my examination (excluding taxes i have paid earlier in my life)..


Good lord, to have been able to espouse that in my country and live to tell about it. I had to stay married in DEPLORABLE condiditons for eleven years. ELEVEN YEARS- just to keep health care. I was "uninsurable" due to pre-existing condition and needed health care. What I endured I cannot even relate. It ruined me, to be honest.

THen when I was in a state of complete disability because of having to stay in those conditions, I finally filed for divorce and felt I would either just die or go onto Free Care. Well, I went onto Free Care, but I had to capitulate my whole life just to keep it. You cannot work on free care. You have to stay poor to keep it. And I needed it. I was not able to work. But I am sure in a decent country I could have held that hope and worked toward that.

So despite the fact that I was reading Greek in my spare time. I let got another 10 years of my life just to keep the health care. I went to Voc Rehab but they told me that if I go to wrok, I would lose health insurance .So what was the point?! !

So I have wasted 20 years of my life just to keep health care. I am a holow shell now, nothing left. But yes I have health care. ANd I could never have paid the millions of dollars out of pocket for the care I needed. And if I have gone without I may have died.

So that is the US health care ssytem for those who are not healthy.



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01 May 2009, 6:05 pm

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You make it sound like a bad thing that "nations aren't what they used to be", only to go on and make it sound like a very good thing!


It's a good thing if you're in a position to benefit from the decline of national power (i.e. you're a millionaire or a highly paid professional freed from any citizenship obligation besides paying the few taxes you can't evade; or on the other side, a third-world peasant who can either move directly to a first-world country or make things to sell there.)

It's a bad thing if you're dependent on the good-will of your fellow citizens (i.e. you rely on public assistance or health care).

For most people it's neither all good nor bad. You get better goods and services, but less security. Travel is cheap and easy, but gets to be boring as the world grows smaller.



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01 May 2009, 6:15 pm

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... and don't forget nations in the modern sense are a quite recent development. There is since the re-raise of long distant trade in Middle Ages a slow but constant tendency for larger political and cultural units: Faster for the elite, which was even in the 18th century quite uniform, slower for the rest of the society, faster in the cities, slower on the countryside - but doing its work; first in Europe, now worldwide.


Yep, culturally it's one world already; no escape from American or Americanized pop culture. There's been some political fragmentation since the 1940s, but real power is probably concentrated in fewer hands than ever before.



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01 May 2009, 6:37 pm

Gabe wrote:
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... and don't forget nations in the modern sense are a quite recent development. There is since the re-raise of long distant trade in Middle Ages a slow but constant tendency for larger political and cultural units: Faster for the elite, which was even in the 18th century quite uniform, slower for the rest of the society, faster in the cities, slower on the countryside - but doing its work; first in Europe, now worldwide.


Yep, culturally it's one world already; no escape from American or Americanized pop culture. There's been some political fragmentation since the 1940s,


You ever looked on a historic map? Hier one example: Cetral Europe 1648 (1918px × 1538px, 880KB). This map is just an overview - here a zip of a map of the Region between Mainz and Cologne: http://www.landeshauptarchiv.de/downloa ... e1-jpg.zip

With the European Unification since 1949 (in which the EU is only the cornerstone) the political map became more orderly than ever since the end of the Roman Empire.

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but real power is probably concentrated in fewer hands than ever before.


In the year 1500s almost all power in Europe was concentrated in three families: The Tudor, Habsburg and the French Royal Family (Valois and later Bourbon). In the 1600s there was short-term new comer: Wasa, which was replaced with Hohenzollern and the Romanov.

For centuries big European Politcs was a deal between very few families (of changing composition) and a handful of courtiers. Power is today more diverse than ever.



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09 Jun 2009, 6:07 am

But now Europe is under one family of EU, despite recent threats by far-right parties. And North America is actually bound after NAFTA. Basically, now, I am only considering only one out of the handful of 'countries' that I may live to better my life as an Aspie...

China (they need more stuff on Aspergers')
India (ditto the case in China)
UAE (too rich to be true, but may have fears of water and oil shortages)
Australia (water shortages too)
New Zealand (decent welfare, but may be prepared to be subsumed by Australia as both countries are interdependent)
Europe, the EU part (Many individual states look quite inviting for an Aspie, but looks can deceive as there are cultural barriers)
United Kingdom (known base of support for Aspies)
United States (main part of NAFTA, also another large base of support for Aspies)



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09 Jun 2009, 6:25 am

Canada, especially in the province of Alberta.Our province has a really good program to help aspies.I benefitted from such.



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09 Jun 2009, 11:54 pm

Oh I may also consider Alberta. :)



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10 Jun 2009, 3:59 am

KenG wrote:
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What is the best country for Aspies to live in?
Aspergia


I was thinking aspietopia but that will do. :)


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10 Jun 2009, 7:46 am

Who doesn't want to live there, lol.



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10 Jun 2009, 9:38 am

South Georgia,USA is a bad idea.



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10 Jun 2009, 11:38 am

What about South Georgia Island (near Antarctica)?

They have blue icebergs, which look really neat.



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10 Jun 2009, 1:39 pm

lol alright. Hickville usa isn't a good place for aspies though.



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27 Jun 2009, 1:33 am

How so may I know?



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27 Jun 2009, 1:50 pm

I think in the end, no place is perfect. The question isn't how it is as much as what are you allowed to do to change it. Like if you do experience racism, what are you allowed to do about it?



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27 Jun 2009, 2:50 pm

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Thanks... I guess got land, will tend and live:)

And as long as we speak both Danish and English, Denmark will be more than welcome for us --- it has a labor shortage thanks to its low birth rates and brain drain to other countries... like the US.


Damn, I don't speak a word of Danish.
My case is fairly peculiar, an aspie raised in a Latin culture* but havin spent years in the US and Western Europe - my country is a mess (and getting worse) but it's hard enough managing interaction there, let alone in other cultures, and my family is there, so I'll try to find a job there when I graduate. If I can't, I'm fairly willing to try my luck almost anywhere - I'm not particularly captivated by the Anglosaxon world, either - I've got the advantage of speaking the language, but have no particular attachment to it.
So, seriously, I'm interested in Scandinavia - I've never been to Scandinavia/Scandinavia + Finland and know little about it other than the stereotypes and some films. As a Third World foreigner, how accepted are you if you're law-abiding, that sort of thing? Is it like Switzerland, with little overt hostility (unlike France) but where you'll never be accepted or welcome no matter how many decades you've lived there or anything? I do know a fellow countryman that was told in Oslo to 'go back to Italy' (a country he has never set foot on), but I've no idea how prevalent that is or how much that varies in different countries. And how easy is it to immigrate there, if you've got a degree, that sort of thing? How profoundly different are these countries from each other? I know Finland is linguistically totally different, in that respect more like Hungary than like Sweden, and that Swedish, Danish, etc are somewhat related to English, but that's the extent of my knowledge. The cold I could manage (I've lived in pretty cold places before), and the dark, at least in southern Scandinavia, can't be much worse than Scotland (which I'd actually prefer to England, if I had to choose).
I don't mean to offend anyone, just want to know. Feel free to ask me about the cultures/countries I do know.

* I've got a love-hate relationship with Latin cultures - if I hadn't been raised in one I'd probably loathe them, but it's the only type of culture I've got some idea how to navigate, and they do have a few good points.


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27 Jun 2009, 8:04 pm

I must agree with some early posters, I mean I often think about this sort of thing, that the closer environment is more important. Within any one country there's a lot of diversity between cities, towns and villages, and areas of towns and cities. Within any one country there is significant difference between these places socio-economically, demographically and politically.

That's true even in such a small country as Scotland. See this link which I have found very useful, which describes types of areas in Scotland as per socio-economic and demographic criteria, some types having more advantage or disadvantage for Aspies (or anyone else) than others.