what's the difference between INTJ and AS?

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31 Mar 2013, 12:02 pm

What is the INTJ difference between that and Aspergers? INTj is not as severe? They score as NTs? I am confused another acronym to look up for me..

A Myers-Brigg personality type?
(introversion, intuition, thinking, judgment)
according to wikiepedia

I just see it as a personality type. So some Aspergers may be INTJ. Others may not be. Some NT may be INTJ some may not be is the conclusion...

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31 Mar 2013, 12:45 pm

I usually score either INTJ or INFJ, I am basically in the middle of thinking and feeling. But I am strong For Introvert, Intuitive, and Judging.

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31 Mar 2013, 12:49 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:

http://typelogic.com/intj.html ===> the whole article rings bells related that remind us of symptoms related AS.

Someone told me that the only difference between AS and IN-types of personality is in term of severity :Aspies have more "significant" social impairment that prevent them to handle a job and get relationships/friends, INs don't necessarily have a "significant" social impairment.

This person also told me AS includes sensory issues while IN-types don't, yet I found this interesting part:

sorry for being pedantic, but this keeps cropping up all over the threads ....
aspies have impairments that cause them to have difficulties that can cause issues in friendships and in maintaining successful employment or relationships --- being aspie does not prevent them to handle a job and get relationships/friends
I'm making this point because I am fed up reading extreme viewpoints on this message board about what being on the spectrum is and isn't.

For young or recently diagnosed people, to be told that it is unlikely they'll ever have a good relationship or a friend is a very damaging thing to do. I want to introduce some balance here.
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31 Mar 2013, 12:58 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:

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6. Introverted sensing

The LII has poor control over their physical well-being, neglecting matters of simple hygiene relatively easily. They dislike having to take care of mundane details of work but simultaneously derive pleasure from aesthetic neatness and organization.

The LII is easily annoyed by sensory over-stimulation, including loud noises, bright light, and extreme temperature. On the other hand, they easily become "addicted" to more pleasurable things, such as music, which have a corresponding effect on their mood (Fe). When left to their own devices, the LII tends to oscillate unhealthily between total indulgence of the senses and total neglect—the latter especially when working on something they feel to be extremely important. They tend to feel guilty for indulging in hedonism for the sake of hedonism.

On the surface the LII can seem easygoing, but in work projects or at home their critical nature will become more obvious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_In ... _Introvert

LII = INTJ

Stats show that the INTJ are the rarest among the general population (~1%) , it's as rare as Asperger.

So what's INTJ (or INs in general) ? is INTJ (and other INs) another label of Asperger or it's vice-versa? Or are they 2 different ,yet correlated labels?

I am INTJ and have AS.

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16 Mar 2016, 11:11 am

Old topic. my two cents are:

The MBTI is a tool, so intrisically limited, that matches cognitive functions. It doesn't tell anything about impairment in cognitive functions. It means to me that someone with ASD can be of any type.
The tests define dimensions not functions though, unless you get a true assessment with a professional, I hope.

It's possible that ASD looks like INxxs, is it true? How do you measure that with such a (personal use) vague tool?

Imagine an intj with spd then, following OP post, they probably look like an Aspie and have the same difficulties. I think that for people with milder forms of Asperger's it would be hard to tell. Where is the limit? is there really such a thing? Does it have to be/is it important?

Same for typing. No one is in a box. Cognitive tests can show that many don't use the "right" functions in the "right" order predicted by type.

One of my fave fictional Aspie is Brenda Johnson, and she's one of the least type "for Aspies" ENFP.

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16 Jun 2018, 1:58 pm

Lightning88 wrote:

I'm ESFJ. It doesn't get much more opposite than that.

Are you sure you're Autistic? My girlfriend is a total ESFJ and I struggle thinking of a person less Autistic than her :-)

Anyway, judging by other threads, INTJ & INTP are the most common personality types among people on this forum, followed by INFJ, INFP & ISTJ. So there's definitely a correlation between having an INTJ & INTP personality and being diagnosed with Autism.

Myself, I'm INTP.

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16 Jun 2018, 3:05 pm

I am INFJ and am diagnosed with Asperger's. Did the test a lot of times over my life and always the same result. Can't answer the questions more honestly.

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16 Jun 2018, 8:26 pm

I'm an INTP

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17 Jun 2018, 2:58 am

I vary between INFJ and INTJ, mostly the latter. Not sure if I have AS though, going in for my assessment next week.

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17 Jun 2018, 7:27 pm

I’ve never been diagnosed but there's probably greater than 50/50 chance that I am on the spectrum. I usually test as INTJ.

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18 Jun 2018, 10:41 pm

One is the result of a statistically unreliable test and the other is a condition that has been researched extensively but no longer "exists" officially.

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20 Jun 2018, 4:57 am

P192 wrote:

One is the result of a statistically unreliable test

It seems to me the issue with Myers-Briggs is that most people have a rather average personality.

This means that their personality is somewhere in the middle between the two extremes for most of the four characteristics, which can result in very different results when the test is taken at a later time.

This doesn't mean the test is unreliable, though. It only means that we should not see the four different Myers-Briggs characteristics as four different dichotomies but rather as four different gradients, and that we must take into consideration that people being in the middle of such a gradient is more common than them being at the edge.

People with more extreme personalities (like people with Autism) are far more likely to get the same results over and over. And not just that, but neuroscientists have been able to map different personality types with different brain activity.

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