Aspie Elitism

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I say we start a petition for the Aspies Elite and start a cult.....you know like scientology. We'll use dianetics to decide who is worthy of being on the autistic spectrum and who is not. Then we start the peking order of who is better than who based on the spectrum of their diagnosis. We then harry away those good for nothing NTs and then keep a watch out for those who haven't been officially diagnosed....they're probably spies anyway.

They can take away our lives but they can't take away our boards!!

It does seem a little weird that there's still "who's the real AS and who are the pretenders" flaming going on.

Don't go. You could maybe lurk and jump in only when you like a thread.

I see you're using that cute pic, again...

... Hm.. might just concider.. just that, while I've been away, it's like a hostile attitude has infected the site, can't quite explain.
Glad you think I'm cute on that pic, but that's me..

It's not possible to measure the intelligence of AS people, high functioning or low functioning autistic people both have intelligence that is not in the same universe as NTs. High functioning AS are just less "different" in ways that are helpful for supporting some external functions. There is a concept in mathematics called "topology", which basically means the landscape in which all units of information and their behavior can be represented. The "topology" -- or mental landscape -- of AS people are so different than NTs that you can't measure intelligence using NT yardsticks or tests. NT IQ tests mean nothing for AS intelligence.

What is a problem on this site is how the lower-functioning and/or lower I.Q. AS keep attacking and criticizing the discussions and personal behavior of higher-functioning and higher I.Q. AS.

It's as if the higher functioning and higher I.Q. AS have become a proxy for NTs on this site, and the less functioning AS are projecting their resentments and sense of injustice against NTs onto the higher functioning AS. You are forgetting that even higher functioning/high I.Q. still lack theory of mind and can be as socially clueless and unempathetic as any other AS.

To me, you all just sound like my parents, who wasted much of my time with them trying to get me to behave socially more sensitive and insightful, when that is my disability. You don't seem to recognize that higher functioning/high I.Q. AS still have social deficits and lack empathy, and that all this nagging and criticism about how insensitive or "ignorant" they are about the experience of other AS, is just more stuff nagging about things we can't help -- our social deficit -- that we have little control over.

Demanding more insight and sensitivity from higher-functioning/higher I.Q. AS is a pointless activity. High functioning or high-I.Q. or not, AS have social deficits. Continuing to bash the higher functioning/high I.Q. AS for their insensitivity and/or "ignorance" about the experience of other AS, implies that they have a theory of mind that allows them to choose to be insensitive or ignorant about the experience of others.

Don't you all recognize that you're treating the higher functioning/high I.Q. AS the way NTs treat all AS? As if the social insensitivity is some moral, character or conscious choice? Higher functioning and higher I.Q. doesn't mean the AS has theory of mind.

Get a life and stop acting like NTs picking on AS for lacking social skills as if we choose to lack them.

Good manners and civility are good ways to combat the hostility. Don't you think, Ephemerella?

Like skins or shirts, will we divide ourselves into "Lowbies" and "Highbies"? Or how about "Diagnoses'ed" and "Wannabes"?

Do we get to pick sides, or do we stand around waiting to get picked (like dodgeball)?

In that case, will there be a third group for all the "Don't fit ins" who don't get invited to any meetings at all?

That might be the biggest group of all.

...No no no! That's not what I implied at all!

I am not attacking AS people at all. I'm merely stating how some people can be towards anyone with mental conditions really... if I didn't express myself clearly, then sorry.

I say our mascot be Xenu and then it be manadatory that we worship our great one with reverent correspondence.

IMO most of what people complain about is probably unintentional and due to social skills deficits.