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Should aspies have kids?
Yes 69%  69%  [ 75 ]
No 9%  9%  [ 10 ]
Look! A Puppy! 22%  22%  [ 24 ]
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18 Apr 2009, 10:14 am

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Take any list of historical figures who are aspergian, and you'll see what the gene pool needs... US.


it's all just theories that cannot be proven. there is no 100% sure test for AS, so all those "historical figures with AS" lists are not worth more than gossip.


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18 Apr 2009, 12:45 pm

anna-banana wrote:
complicitytheory wrote:
Take any list of historical figures who are aspergian, and you'll see what the gene pool needs... US.


it's all just theories that cannot be proven. there is no 100% sure test for AS, so all those "historical figures with AS" lists are not worth more than gossip.


The same could pretty much be said for anyone diagnosed AS. It's not like we did a blood test and it showed up positive for AS.



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18 Apr 2009, 2:06 pm

An Autie (me) and an Aspie (my wife) can have a NT as a child... check out the following..

I am an Autie + ADHD (IQ + 140)
My wife is an Aspie (IQ + 140)

Our biologcal kids together...
My oldest son, Autie traits but NT
Youngest son, ADD and NT (medium ADD)
Daughter, Autie and ADD (both mild)

Both me and my wife are on the spectrum but 1 in 3 of our children is also on the spectrum...

I have ADHD really bad but have learned to manage it very well, I am my own psychologist and therapist... One child has mild ADD, another has it a bit more... and the oldest does not have it...


So, if both parents are ASD, im my case, only 33% of the kids were ASD, not close to 100%... I believe that theory is busted...

My oldest sister is more Autistic thand I am... she has other issues and i believe that she should not have any children because she can not take care of her self as it is... She has several other issues and her IQ is around 60-70 range... She is on all sorts of medications.... if she had a baby. the drugs she was on would likely give her a miscarrriage... and if the baby survived the pregenancy, she would not be able to take care of the child.... I do not think she should have her reproductive organs mutilated so she could not have children still...



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18 Apr 2009, 2:09 pm

Having an obsessive interest in managing my ASD/ADHD as an Autie coupled with the ability to hyperfocus from time to time as an ADHD'er... it can do wonders in improving yourself while not living in a box of labels others put you in...



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18 Apr 2009, 2:20 pm

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Why is everybody assuming that Aspies can only have Aspie children?
Neither of my parents has any form of ASD, and neither does my 17yo daughter. On the other hand, there are two other Aspies in my immediate family tree besides myself, one diagnosed, one undiagnosable because she's now deceased. Its just a twist in a chromosome somewhere, that pops up at random. How you gonna pick out the one swimmer in a billion carrying that particular glitch? Are we next going to debate whether people with dyslexia should be allowed to breed?


Good Point.


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18 Apr 2009, 5:51 pm

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Most of the Aspies who are severely affected wouldn't get the chance to have kids anyways. Though some probably would. It is amazing some of the people that are able to procreate. It brings to mind the movie "I am Sam" where a ret*d man manages to impregnate a homeless woman and have a little girl. The movie is fictional, but it is a realistic portrayal of what can happen. One homely slack-jawed severe autistic is my social group has had a son.

Most autistic women (rare I know) could have children because a man will f**k anything.



the last line of this quote is downright offensive, ignorant and immature. 8O 8O
I would urge you to consider the autistic women who post on this AUTISTIC/ASPERGERS forum.
an apology may be in order....... 8O



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18 Apr 2009, 6:42 pm

check it out yo im a mind reader

this is........*reads mind*....complicitytheory if he was a regular white who blames his failures on minorities:

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I read a post where someone said that whites should not have children. I don't have children and don't want to have children, but I was struck by the thought. Why not? And then I realized... ZOMG!! ! what would happen without whites? Where would we be. Google would have to shut down. And probably NASA. Who would invent the world? Who would be the champions of race-diversity?

We would be lost, as a species, as all the lower races danced and socialized our world into oblivion, with no one around who knew how to hack the espresso machine into a disco smoke machine and get double lattes at the right temperature. Anyone who has studied environmental issues knows about the necessity of genetic diversity, and the dangers of the mono-crop. Well blacks and jews are a monocrop. Remember, whites are not broken. Society is broken. Society has LOST its ability to be inclusive and accommodating of anyone who is not black or jewish. As the world has become institutionalized over the past few centuries, the world has shrunk, and the important niches we filled in have been gradually enclosed and locked away. Now, the expectations for interracial conformity are the rule. I think it is our job to awaken white pride and nationalism, and increase racially united expressions of what it means to participate actively in society... and us whites the people to do it.

Take any list of historical figures who are white, and you'll see what the gene pool needs... US.


this f*****g übermensch complex you people have make me feel as if im in nazi germany. humans should have children in general, of course including those who are diffrent from the majority but this whole "society needs us to function!! !! !! !!" thing makes you sound like a racial supremacist. and ive actually heard that exact argument from neonazis and its sounds just as ret*d if you use it about any other group

we're all just humans man



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18 Apr 2009, 6:44 pm

millie wrote:
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Most of the Aspies who are severely affected wouldn't get the chance to have kids anyways. Though some probably would. It is amazing some of the people that are able to procreate. It brings to mind the movie "I am Sam" where a ret*d man manages to impregnate a homeless woman and have a little girl. The movie is fictional, but it is a realistic portrayal of what can happen. One homely slack-jawed severe autistic is my social group has had a son.

Most autistic women (rare I know) could have children because a man will f**k anything.



the last line of this quote is downright offensive, ignorant and immature. 8O 8O
I would urge you to consider the autistic women who post on this AUTISTIC/ASPERGERS forum.
an apology may be in order....... 8O

It is pretty accurate though, if a woman wants to get pregnant, they can fairly easily. On the other hand, guys have to work in order to get laid.



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06 May 2009, 7:52 am

i want children.. but regardless it is Our right as humans, aspie/NT/green/blue/purple shouldn't matter.. i'm "Agnostic" in that i don't believe in a God but it's possible for there to be & impossible to prove that there isn't in my opinion.. with that in mind, i feel almost "duty-bound" to reproduce & certainly feel strongly compelled to do so.. to pass on what little i can learn about the world to a child of my own (hopefully "shared" with a loving partner) & hopefully bring an intelligent, caring, considerate & helpful little guy or girl into the world..
think that's about it.. hello to all



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06 May 2009, 8:40 am

Children annoy my boyfriend and he is literally afraid of babies...I can honestly say they make his skin crawl.



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06 May 2009, 9:00 am

My wife and I have two sons. They are finishing the 1st and 6th grade. One has some ADHD issues according to a doctor, the other is going to be tested for autism this summer. I, their father, is diagnosed with Asperger's. The genes are clearly in my family. Before we had our children I was not diagnosed as I was unfamiliar with Asperger's. I, as well as those around me, knew that I was eccentric---I am really eccentric by most standards. So had we had the knowledge of my austism back then, would we still have had children? Yes! If the one son is diagnosed with AS---no problem. He is happy, fun loving, and a joy to be around---most of the time. I wouldn't want him any other way. Our other son who is ADHD (according to the pediatrician---take that with a grain of salt) put him on medication once briefly. My son was miserable. No more medication!! ! We have supported him and he is doing much better now. I have questioned the possibility that he might also have AS. So---my answer is, "Yes, if we Aspies want children---then let's have children."


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07 May 2009, 11:52 am

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I'd love to have kids of my own, and nothing is going to stop me, when the time comes. For aspies who want to have kids, i say go for the family jewels and don't worry about what the Pro-Nazi people tell you. :)


If you want to have children with or without a partner, you can. Without a partner, a woman can be artificially inseminated by a donor of her choice. However, men don't have any means for having children without a partner.

It's not that I'm complaining about my possibilities, in fact, I might choose not to have any children of my own anyway if given the choice. I just want to point out that men don't have the same options.


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07 May 2009, 12:28 pm

I'm only 18 and do not know if I want kids or not.


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07 May 2009, 4:48 pm

I think we should have kids. Why shouldn't we? After all, we're humans like everybody else.


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07 May 2009, 9:21 pm

If we are going to talk about who should breed why not have interracial aspie dating service. Work at blending the human family together like it was at the beginning with a little more autism



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08 May 2009, 6:39 am

Johnaster wrote:
If we are going to talk about who should breed why not have interracial aspie dating service. Work at blending the human family together like it was at the beginning with a little more autism


And if it gets common to have one's genes tested for possible diseases as cancer, diabetes etc., then people, who question who has got right or not right to breed, will have quite a lot of work to do with finding out who should be allowed to breed and who not... :roll:
Then maybe the end would be that most people shouldn't breed... :roll:
Then there wouldn't be many people on earth, as time went by... but on the other hand, they would all be perfect, healthy, NT and happy... or.... ?