Do you NOT CARE about the whole Swine Flu issue?

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28 Apr 2009, 12:22 pm

It turning into a serious problem, its coming too close to home now since I live in England & there are two confirmed cases in Scotland as well in places like Spain etc. Lets hope it can get sorted out sooner rather than later.



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28 Apr 2009, 12:37 pm

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What can be do about it anyway? We can wash our hands, cover our mouths when we cough, wear masks and stay away from crowds. That is just about it, until there is a sufficient supply of tanaflu vaccine on hand.

Aside from reasonable personal cleanliness and caution worrying will do no good whatsoever.


That helps a lot though!

Some of us work with people and are close to them all day long after all.


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28 Apr 2009, 12:37 pm

I don't live in a big city so I doubt it'll come to my area. I don't think it'll be much of a problem here in the UK; only two people are known to be infected, and most people can get healthcare from the NHS even if they're poor.



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28 Apr 2009, 12:39 pm

What does this have to do with autism?

Shouldn't this be moved somewhere?



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28 Apr 2009, 1:01 pm

While I try to have an interest in everything, well just say this new media balloon isn't high on my list of priorities.


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28 Apr 2009, 1:07 pm

I just read a headline that said "Beating swine flu? Stay away from all".

Relatively speaking, they are talking about shutting down the country (U.S.) over a flu. I'm sure it's a worse than average flu, and if I end up getting it it will probably suck very much, but seriously, people get sick every day and people die of normal flu every day. The media pumps this garbage up like we got to shut down the whole operation over 68 cases... Why? Because it makes for good news.

Is this going to kill more people than the many thousands that die in car accidents every year? Do people cower in their homes due to the ever-present risk of getting peeled down at any moment by a drunk, or an idiot on a phone, or a runaway 18 wheeler that is on fire? I don't get it... On a scale of 1 to 10 the relative danger of dying of swine flu in the U.S. is probably about a 1.6.

Sorry, mine is a rant on the media more than anything else. Way to sensationalize a disease that is so "severe" that every day it causes thousands of parents and their children to butt heads about whether or not the child feels bad enough to miss school.



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28 Apr 2009, 1:24 pm

They are "shutting down" in Mexico, so far not so much in the US. There is room for some concern though. If you get smug and don't think you can catch it you might just end up with a really bad case of Swine Flu and at some point you'll probably be wishing you had been somewhat cautious. I can understand why there would be concern in places like schools because it's not easy keeping germs out of schools and once one kid gets something and goes to school with it, like, if they have a runny nose and get it on their hands and touch stuff they are going to spread whatever it is, colds, swine flu, whatever.
I have gone to movies before and come down with colds because I was careless. I have gone to Wal Mart, touched a shopping cart and caught stomach viruses and colds that way because I didn't think. It's easy to sometimes "forget" to wash your hands unless you are about to eat or something and if you touch a shopping cart at the store, then touch your nose, then touch the cart, then touch your nose, and that cart has swine flu on it, that is all it takes to come down with it and most people do not stop and wash their hands several times while shopping. Same at the movies. You touch the arm rest of your chair several times, and without thinking, touch your nose and, it's the same as with the shopping cart, if swine flu is on that arm rest you can get it. It's not "Hype" it's reality. It really is that easy to catch something. So, yes, it's good to be cautious. Be glad the media is telling you about, sheesh, instead of just letting you get sick with it while all the time saying nothing at all. At least now you are aware of it. Take a little can of Lysol with you to the store and to the movies :)



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28 Apr 2009, 1:30 pm

I kinda care but I'm not bricking myself over it. It might just be another bird flu where everyone got scared over nothing.
I''m right in the middle of england so I doubt there'll be many cases here, it would most probably be in the costs where people come in from other countries on ferrys and things.


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28 Apr 2009, 1:44 pm

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They are "shutting down" in Mexico, so far not so much in the US. There is room for some concern though. If you get smug and don't think you can catch it you might just end up with a really bad case of Swine Flu and at some point you'll probably be wishing you had been somewhat cautious. I can understand why there would be concern in places like schools because it's not easy keeping germs out of schools and once one kid gets something and goes to school with it, like, if they have a runny nose and get it on their hands and touch stuff they are going to spread whatever it is, colds, swine flu, whatever.
I have gone to movies before and come down with colds because I was careless. I have gone to Wal Mart, touched a shopping cart and caught stomach viruses and colds that way because I didn't think. It's easy to sometimes "forget" to wash your hands unless you are about to eat or something and if you touch a shopping cart at the store, then touch your nose, then touch the cart, then touch your nose, and that cart has swine flu on it, that is all it takes to come down with it and most people do not stop and wash their hands several times while shopping. Same at the movies. You touch the arm rest of your chair several times, and without thinking, touch your nose and, it's the same as with the shopping cart, if swine flu is on that arm rest you can get it. It's not "Hype" it's reality. It really is that easy to catch something. So, yes, it's good to be cautious. Be glad the media is telling you about, sheesh, instead of just letting you get sick with it while all the time saying nothing at all. At least now you are aware of it. Take a little can of Lysol with you to the store and to the movies :)



Yea, when I was talking about "shutting down" that was in reference to the article I read, which was discussing the implications, likelihood, and the potential for "effectiveness" of a similar shut down in the U.S.

I'm kind of in a position where I can't afford to be concerned with germs and common illnesses because I work at a residential facility for teenage boys. They are sick all the time. There is a nasty bug of some sort going around there right now, probably half of them are sick at present. (And they sometimes go home on weekends, so there's no reason they couldn't catch swine flu and bring it back in with them...)

I can see your point, mine is just that if the media didn't say a word and I got swine flu, I'd be like "Well, looks like those damn kids at work got me sick again," and I'd be miserable, and I'd get over it and get on with my life. Although I'm also lucky enough to have a rip roaring immune system that is on the warpath 24/7--I'm constantly exposed to all these rough sicknesses and I end up with some lingering congestion and sniffles and nothing more.



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28 Apr 2009, 2:09 pm

Chimchar wrote:
What does this have to do with autism?

Shouldn't this be moved somewhere?



Sorry if this topic bothered you. I wasn't exactly sure where to place this since under news/media has to do with Autism so it wouldn't go there and I was considering Random Discussion but the main reason I put it under General Autism is to see what other people with AS and Autism etc. thought of the issue and this is where I thought I'd get the most post. Sorry if I upset you or anyone else. IMO I hate posting to a board that doesn't get many viewers and get maybe like 3 replies since no one frequents a certain board. :-)



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28 Apr 2009, 2:13 pm

As long as I or anyone I care about doesn't catch it I couldn't really care.

Having said that, if I were about twelve again, I'd be saving-up canned food, water and soap under my bed in preperation for the apocalypse (hopefully with zombies). Don't ask. :oops:


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28 Apr 2009, 2:18 pm

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I can see your point, mine is just that if the media didn't say a word and I got swine flu, I'd be like "Well, looks like those damn kids at work got me sick again," and I'd be miserable, and I'd get over it and get on with my life. Although I'm also lucky enough to have a rip roaring immune system that is on the warpath 24/7--I'm constantly exposed to all these rough sicknesses and I end up with some lingering congestion and sniffles and nothing more.

You're in a unique position because of your job but there are things the average person can do to keep from catching as many bugs. When I know something's going around I double up on handwashing and Germ X and it keeps me from catching it. When I use Germ X on a regular basis I don't catch anything severe.
I've noticed there's all kinds of severities so when there's something going around that is really bad, it's best to try to avoid it if you can and a good way to avoid it is by sanitizing shopping carts with wipes or spraying Lysol on the bars you push them with. The bars are where all the germs are. Some of the Supercenters in my area have sanitation wipes for the carts but I'd bring my own just in case.

There are certain places you have to watch out for. I already mentioned shopping carts and movie theatres, both places I've caught colds and stuff at, but there's also buffets. Buffets have utensils that lots of people handle. Ci-Ci's Pizza for example. To get the pizza you have to touch a triangular spatula. That's the kind of place you have to make sure you wash your hands and use sanitizer before you eat anything with your hands or you'll be sick a short time later.
These are the kinds of hidden dangers for the average joe who might not be attending school and have collegues at work who stay home when not feeling well. They might think they are in the clear but there's these sources of germs not everyone thinks about.



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28 Apr 2009, 2:51 pm

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Do you NOT CARE about the whole Swine Flu issue?


no. I really don't.

(sorry I don't really care to read the rest of this thread either)

there is so many homo sapiens on this planet, we should get used to epidemics like this one because there will be more. and the ones to come will be much worse I think. one day we'll think of the swine flu as a walk-in-the-park of all pandemics.


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28 Apr 2009, 2:56 pm

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You might be right, probably are, but I suspect plenty of people thought pretty much identical thoughts about the Spanish Flu of 1918. Including some of the estimated 50 to 100 million people who died.

... leaving behind those people that were resistant to the virus, and who passed their resistance on to their offspring, who passed it along to theirs, who passed it along...

we are all descended from people that the spanish flu virus could not kill. no worries.



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28 Apr 2009, 7:02 pm

I've seen this hype before with mad cow, sars, and bird flu. Seeing how history has a tendency to repeat itself, swine flu will kill a few hundred, the media and the general public get in a rational thought sapping state of fear, and after some time every one forgets and moves on. And in 2 to 4 years bear flu emerges.



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28 Apr 2009, 8:01 pm

I just returned from the store where I got some Vicks and a small bottle of Germ X. I had some already but it's almost gone. I got a trial size. I looked for a regular size but the store was completely sold out of Germ X, Purell, and all other brands of hand sanitizer. I am determined to remain Swine Flu free and will start working toward my goal by using the Germ X serveral times a day. I want to make a little experiment out of this. I figure I have nothing to lose. The worst that could happen would be I get it and that might happen anyway, if I just did nothing so I got nothing to lose. I want to see if this Vicks, Dial Complete Foaming Hand Soap, and Germ X is enough to keep me Swine Flu free. I might end up being a Germ X addict before this is over. I used it before eating popcorn at the movies and at restaraunts before, but, after this I might start using it all the time just to keep the germies off my hands.
When I got home I put some Vicks on the end of a Q tip and coated the inside of a nostril with it. I threw it away after that, it was sorta yucky, then I got another Q tip, put some Vicks on it and did the same thing to the other nostril. So now all I can smell is the menthol in the Vicks. It's cool. Literally.
So, now the inside of my nose has this Vicks forcefield shielding it from any stray virii that might attempt an attack and invasion.