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ToughDiamond
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06 May 2009, 5:32 pm

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it's just so annoying, the way they can be so quick to say that person's an idiot/weirdo/nutcase/malingerer or whatever diminutive label they like to use, when the only objective thing they can say is that they don't understand their behaviour. Perhaps education is the only way, though I think there will be a lot of individuals who just won't want to know, the ones who prop up their own egos by making others out to be inferior.


True, it's very annoying. But it also highlights that they have their own issues to deal with. Unfortunately they take it out on other folks. It's their problem to purposefully be that way, so don't make it your problem by worrying about it. :)


You're right, I shouldn't worry about it. Some bad things things get to me in my darker moments, and I'm getting those moments more often than usual lately.

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I think there will be a lot of individuals who just won't want to know, the ones who prop up their own egos by making others out to be inferior. But I don't suppose that's an "illness" peculiar to NTs - no offense to present company, I just mean it's a sad part of human behaviour in general, and yet it seems so obviously hideous that I can't understand why society hasn't purged it out of everybody. Whatever happened to love? :(


Mediocre people make themselves feel better by choosing to compare themselves to people who are even less happy/competent/successful/good-looking/whatever. It's a defense mechanism. It's called framing. People will stop doing it when they learn to be happy in an objective way instead of in a relative way.

Some wise person said that you should surround yourself with people slightly better than you, so you can learn from them and rise to their level. This is only good advice for people who can tolerate being the omega.


Well, I don't really hold with the notion of "better people," though I take your point, and I like it when I find somebody who has some talent or other that exceeds my own. It does rub off, in an almost supernatural way.



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06 May 2009, 5:37 pm

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Would you say heartbreak = folk disease?


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07 May 2009, 5:21 am

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Would you say heartbreak = folk disease?


Yes.

That would be "Love Sickness".

I don't think that one can get a doctor's note for that though.
What about time off work for "folk illnesses"?


Since ancient times there have been "truth-tellers".
People who tell the "truth" like it is without deception.
I think that there's always been a niche for direct, honest and objective communication.
Whether other people accept these "truths" or not is another matter!



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07 May 2009, 10:55 am

To quote my friend "I am a very ill man" :lol:



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07 May 2009, 11:36 am

I'm not ill and I don't need to be cured.


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07 May 2009, 12:05 pm

I don't at all classify Aspergers as: a) a disability or b) an illness; it's a difference.

I do sometimes succumb to depression, sort of mildly clinically. Heck - people suspect that I have mood swings in the form of Cyclothymia, possibly. I'm also rather Obsessive Compulsive, so sometimes this all gets too much - I can become ill.

I wouldn't change myself though - if I have Cyclothymia, which I may or may not have (I do have some rather rapid swings in mood sometimes though, to what may be hypo-mania occasionally), then I think I like having it. I like having AS... I like these things. I accept them, and I like who I am.

Not everything about mental disorders are bad - sometimes they carry good things with them.


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07 May 2009, 11:04 pm

I see how her referring aspergers as a mental illness can be very offensive for many thing, it was only a contributing factor to why I found this article somewhat offensive and perhaps a little overexaggerated. She places a very derogatory tone on the experiance of having an aspie child which I found offensive. She makes aspergers sound like a much worse disorder, or as she phrases "illness"(or whatever you wanna call it) then it actually is.

Though on the flip side for me that is, she give me better insite to why I developed selective mutism which I wonder why I didnt realize it until now. She states that most aspie kids have a hard time with change or transition. I went to 3 different elementary schools. It was not good cause Im aspie.