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21 May 2009, 6:56 pm

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But, I also don't have to be a doormat


MKDP, don't take it personal. Zoonic's issues are obviously so bad, he's almost insane.


mls, how do you propose I resolve the competing desires of (1.) Zoonic that I take it personally, and (2.) yourself, that I do not ? Shall I flip a coin ? Heads, I shall endeavor to take it personally; tails, I shall not ? It is roughly a 50-50% probability, averaged out over random flips.

I have not disclosed how I take it. Or do you believe you can you *read* my unspoken feelings on the subject, despite my being a savant autie ?

Do you think I have received lesser second-class legal education and training on the (allegedly) insane, as compared to others of my peers ?



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21 May 2009, 7:04 pm

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Many of the lesser functioning people with AS on these boards have a tendency to accredit their entire personality to AS. They seem to have such a weak self and theory of mind that AS to them "explains who they are". Other than their clinical differences, they are empty shells with 0 personality. I'm sickened by that.

I also have AS, but it's just a minor nuisance, not who I am. I have a much stronger identity so I don't need to use a psychiatric diagnosis to represent personality.


Insults aside, this post actually made me stop and think. I don't think anyone on here is an "empty shell" but I think Zoonic makes a point in that people can get too preoccupied with their AS (because of our tendency to obsess), to the point at which it defines their entire personality. We would do well to remind ourselves that we are first and foremost individuals, and AS is only part - not all - of who we are.


Perhaps, but I can do so all I want and it still does not make me able to better use paper print or use telephones by *abracadabra* rewiring the functionality of my brain just on your whim. Autism is the part of me that makes these impairments part of who and what I am. Blind people can pretend they are not sight impaired, as well, but if they run across an extremely busy highway without seeing-eye dog or someother assistance, their denial of the reality of their condition is likely to result in them being flattened motionless in the roadway half-way across.

Someone can hit me with the sudden aversive smell of garlic, and I will go into instant and immediate sensory overload. Another reality of my autism condition. This is part of who and what I am. do you want to characterize autistic oversensitivities part of "personality ?" I regard it as somewhat more of an autonomic arousal reaction.

But to each their own. And hopefully for the peace and betterment of mankind, we can all find a way to get along.



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21 May 2009, 7:24 pm

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Just a minute. Not all Aspies have that trait. I have a cupboard full of clothes of a great variety of styles. Getting dressed is a game to me, like paper dolls or drawing pictures. An outfit is a costume, and I play various characters in the theatre production which is my life. As the wardrobe mistress in my own play, I care very much that my characters' outfits should either suit or deliberately contradict their roles, depending on the character I am playing, the scene of the play, and the anticipated interaction with other characters.


Alphabetania, sadly, I don't have very many nice clothes at this particular time, due to some bit of clothing theft (which I am not getting into), but I always loved to dress up. Yes, maybe like a character or a costume, but just because I really like clothes and like to dress up ! It makes me feel good (with the caveat I don't like certain textures like pure wool and scratchy starched laced-patterns), and I do like nice and interesting clothes. But, I don't really get dressed up or like to get dressed up as a game or to pretend/play some fictional part. I just used to dress up a lot for formal attire parties, horse show competitions, sports, ballet performance, professional engagements, parties, dates, and *just because.* That's not to say I would not dress in a costume if I were given a part in a play, but when I dress up it usually has a purpose, not just some game or pretend thing.

Unless, I were sharing a deliberate intentional adult game play fantasy with someone and in that case I might indulge sharing with the other in dressing up specially, but in that case, a little known fact about me is in the struggle to earn a paycheck I was trained in a job (not an illegal activity) to impersonate slaves and dominatrixes, black women, PG13 conversations, and linger a conversation with another long enough to keep the person on the line for a maximum of 16.5 minutes to earn the highest rate of pay average for an hr. I had great difficulty with such conversational skills, but it is amazing the learning curve one can accomplish with desperation for the maximum (legal) paycheck one can earn to pay for one's autism service horse for the ability of an autie to use language.



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21 May 2009, 9:23 pm

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I was trained in a job (not an illegal activity) to impersonate slaves and dominatrixes, black women, PG13 conversations, and linger a conversation with another long enough to keep the person on the line for a maximum of 16.5 minutes to earn the highest rate of pay average for an hr.

What do you do if it's not a secret?



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21 May 2009, 10:17 pm

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I was trained in a job (not an illegal activity) to impersonate slaves and dominatrixes, black women, PG13 conversations, and linger a conversation with another long enough to keep the person on the line for a maximum of 16.5 minutes to earn the highest rate of pay average for an hr.

What do you do if it's not a secret?


Please explain. I did not use the word "secret" did I ?



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21 May 2009, 10:21 pm

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I was trained in a job (not an illegal activity) to impersonate slaves and dominatrixes, black women, PG13 conversations, and linger a conversation with another long enough to keep the person on the line for a maximum of 16.5 minutes to earn the highest rate of pay average for an hr.

What do you do if it's not a secret?


Please explain. I did not use the word "secret" did I ?


What is your job?



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21 May 2009, 10:36 pm

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Trying to pin a personality trait on AS is kind of fruitless. Your personality is built up by your brain chemistry through your experiences. To suggest that trait A is or is not attributable in some way, shape, or form to AS would require an understanding of our brain that is well beyond science at this point.


Interesting you state it as a negative, kinda hedges the bets as to causation a bit, doesn't it ? Since autism and Aspergers are still such a mystery. Or, as Winston Churchill put it: a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.



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21 May 2009, 10:40 pm

mylostsoul wrote:
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I was trained in a job (not an illegal activity) to impersonate slaves and dominatrixes, black women, PG13 conversations, and linger a conversation with another long enough to keep the person on the line for a maximum of 16.5 minutes to earn the highest rate of pay average for an hr.

What do you do if it's not a secret?


Please explain. I did not use the word "secret" did I ?


What is your job?


Was. Past tense, not present. If I tell you, I will have to confess-all to the bar examiners of activity, while perfectly legal, is a bit atypical in the resume of an examinee -- and I am not sure I can talk about it without bursting into peels of laughter or embarassing the heck out of the sensitivities of the examiners. While it is mandatory to disclose, no one says it cannot be relegated to a mere footnote of history.



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21 May 2009, 10:49 pm

Also, I'm inherently very shy.



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21 May 2009, 11:22 pm

But in the job, I did learn through my mentors, the art of tantalization and stringing-along the tease. I don;t have problems talking about it, but first you need to tell me the rating of this forum. Is it PG13 ? R ? Or X ?



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22 May 2009, 12:50 am

I won't have time to read all that until later this weekend, but my eye fell on something in one of the recent messages which is prompting me to respond to what appeared to be a misconception about me. I thought I should clear it up:

I am an Aspie. I do not wish I had been born a neurotypical.


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22 May 2009, 3:08 am

From what exactly?

From themselves?

I'm sorry, but this is just downright cruel.
I'd never cure anyone I knew of being themselves.

Hasn't stopped others trying on me though :P.

My experiences are things that I wouldn't even wish on my worst enemy.
So no, please don't cure NTs.

Don't cure my old friends: they're fine as they are.



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22 May 2009, 6:47 am

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I'd teach them that you should do things with your hair or clothes because you want to, not because everyone in your pack-social group will reject you if you don't.

I'd teach them to say what you mean, straight out, and not expect people to read your mind.

I'd teach them to focus on one thing at once, like proper Aspies. :D

I'd teach them to go into extreme focus for hours at a time, like proper Aspies :D

I'd teach them to develop very strong and exclusive interests...this is only healthy:D:D:D

I would teach them to behave honestly in social situations and not say things for ritualistic reasons. Excerpt from my diagnostic manual:

Normal reaction to the question 'How are you?'

I'm happy/angry/bored/hyperactive/etc.

Neurotypical reaction:

I'm fine (when subject is in fact sick, tired, or angry)


These are great ideas. Many NTs suffer from difficulties with focusing, or from the so-called multitasking symptom.
Another idea to a cure:
Lots of caseine and gluten
... and mercury! 8O :mrgreen:



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22 May 2009, 6:51 am

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From what exactly?

From themselves?

I'm sorry, but this is just downright cruel.
I'd never cure anyone I knew of being themselves.

Hasn't stopped others trying on me though :P.

My experiences are things that I wouldn't even wish on my worst enemy.
So no, please don't cure NTs.

Don't cure my old friends: they're fine as they are.


this is possibly the only non silly post in this entire thread.



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22 May 2009, 10:36 am

-Vorzac- wrote:
AmberEyes wrote:
From what exactly?

From themselves?

I'm sorry, but this is just downright cruel.
I'd never cure anyone I knew of being themselves.

Hasn't stopped others trying on me though :P.

My experiences are things that I wouldn't even wish on my worst enemy.
So no, please don't cure NTs.

Don't cure my old friends: they're fine as they are.


this is possibly the only non ret*d post in this entire thread.

Come on, now. No one in this thread is even being remotely serious. The point was to imagine and whimsically speculate about a world where the "tables would be turned."


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22 May 2009, 10:50 am

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Come on, now. No one in this thread is even being remotely serious...

Well, except the left turn that this discussion briefly took.


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