Aspergers and above average IQ

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In my view there exist two major factors contributing to people with AS being in common opinion characterized by above average IQ:

- Someone who is mostly sitting home reading and talking to parents for the lack of friends in their age group will always sound much smarter than others.

-The other one is purely psychological, basing on existing in human heads some natural tendency towards balance: someone exhibiting noticeable deficits in some field (in this case in the field of social contacts) is automatically assumed by others that they’d be able to make up for it in another field (here the field of intelligence).

It's the obsession that makes the impression, really. The "little professor" grows up to be the "big professor".

For example, I know more about ASDs than my psychiatrist, and he freely admits such; I also correct him with medical terminology repetitively (I'm such a courteous fellow). He has a PhD in medicine, plus the psychology degree; I have a grade 10 pass. His IQ would be much higher than mine overall, realistically. Whilst this is a fallacy to say that one needs education to be smart in the ways defined, it's more likely that the one who has the education will be smarter in the ways defined.

RE: MR and social ability. Someone with just moderate to mild MR will have better social ability than the individual with AS who has an IQ of 100. The only time it's sometimes hard to distinguish between the two is when you get to a profound level of MR in normal people and those with Profound Autism. Both groups are severely impaired (even though in the person with Autism, it's more likely that their brains are too "smart" rather than too "dumb", and they can't handle anything but the basic of repetitive actions, as the world is too overwhelming).

I refuse to that so-called IQ tests, I'll let people judge me from my actions and ideas instead of some test.

I think aspie-rant put it best, its largely to do with the maths.

Of course IQ's are highly questionable as a way to assess intelligence, they are nortoriously terrible at even passing over to different cultures and subgroups within the same culture. I would question their reletiveness on a person with aspergers syndrome as I doubt people with that neurotype were used enough or in the right ways when designing the IQ system.

I rarely meet nt's who care about IQ. It doesn't seem to affect the lives of a large part of the population. I'd expect a higher average in a group who find a test that gives them a number. A number that signifies a false achievement when the world presents so many pitfalls.

Why is there so much debate over who is in or out of the Aspie gang? There are a number of different ATTEMPTS at criteria. Non of which are set in stone. All have current grey areas and all room for future adjustment as study and debate continues. So surely the whole black/white is/isn't is totally missing the point?

So if a subsection of Aspie like people contain a large number of Aspie traits, more maybe than a subsection of other Aspie diagnosed people, but because they don't have all the currently CHOSEN significant traits as listed in ONE specific criteria, at ONE specific point in time. Are you saying they are somehow less Aspie?

Lets all treat the use of the English language like it has a clear well defined syntax and that we have Aspie rules that have been set in stone for millennia wooo!! !!

As someone pointed out, comparing Aspie and NT intelligence is like apples and oranges. There are different kinds of intelligence. Consider the following:

1. In-depth thinking and analytical ability

2. Savant computation

3. Organizational, prioritization and management skills

4. Communication, linguistic and PR skills

5. Planning skills

6. Ability to keep things in perspective

7. Ability to learn from one's mistakes

8. Ability to live within one's means

9. Family cohesion skills and the ability to have one partner for life

10. Ability to be consistent

11. Insight, intuition, non-linear thinking, wisdom and spiritual enlightenment

12. Architectural, design, and artistic ability

13. Ability to compose symphonies and savant musical skills

14. Mechanical and construction skills

15. Leadership skills including ability to inspire and unite

16. Ordinary and savant healing/diagnostic skills

17. Litigation skills of argument, debate and persuasion



Any more?

I just took something like an IQ test that is given to anyone in the State of Florida that wants it. It's called the "Work Keys" Test, and you can give the
results to potential employers, government and civilian. I would recommend to everyone who is job hunting to go to their state unemployment office
to take it. I think most states have something similar.

There are Levels 1-7 on Reading, Math and Locating Information - which is reading graphs, charts, stock reports, etc. I scored Level 7 on Reading and
Level 5 on Math and Locating Info. This makes me "Gold Certified" (ie, scoring 5 or above on all three tests). I'll use any advantage I can get in doing
well in interviews. What I lack in social skills, I make up in proving intelligence. This is an Aspie adaptive technique I guess you can say.
I always scored higher on verbal exams than on math. I did a little studing to pass the math test.. havn't done that in a while!

And let's keep in mind while discussing IQs that I don't believe it is something you are born with. Nor is IQ static. You can raise your IQ by hard work
and having educational materials and inspiration available to you. It's the same with dancing, music, arts, or whatever interests you.