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06 Aug 2010, 11:49 am

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06 Aug 2010, 12:04 pm

AmberEyes wrote:
MommyJones wrote:
You must have been a great kid 8)


I don't know.
Maybe I was a great doormat in the playground (lots of reverse psychology and social manipulation tactics going on there).

This isn't a complaint, but I notice that a lot of American animation contains characters who are trying to get something from other characters. There seems to be a lot of sophisticated social persausion in American children's animation.

Whereas, where I come from, there tended to be more straight forward storytelling for children. Even some of the animation that's aimed at adults tends to contain less social manipulation. Perhaps, where I come from, the children's writer's wanted to set the kiddies a good example. Any transgression was punished by an adult in the story or made into "edutainment".

I notice that children's characters in American animation allowed to get away with far more violence and bribery. Also, the children often outsmart and make the adults look foolish.

I find some of the American cartoon stories quite interesting for this reason. In these stories, the character has an objective to obtain something from another character. There are lots of interesting social twists in stories like these. It's very sophisticated. It's not like any of the animation where I come from.


I totally agree with you, and I talk about this all the time with my husband. I never really noticed that until l had a child and was really paying attention to what he was learning by what he was watching. It's amazing what bad behavior they can learn from cartoons that are supposed to be for his age group. Disney World is another one that I saw very differently as a parent. It's a really scary place with a lot of evil and manipulation. My poor kid has gotten in trouble for things he learns on cartoons, and it doesn't make sense to him either. I don't remember when I was watching cartoons thinking too much about that side of it. Maybe that's my NT brain not picking up on stuff. I suppose that was a good thing. I was a disruptive kid, and very independent, but wasn't bad. I was honest...to a fault and very easily manipulated so I totally know what it's like to be a doormat on the playground. I still don't like the playground.



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10 Aug 2010, 1:48 pm

Binge Drinking: saying gobbledy gook then being violently ill afterwards. Drinking Games.

Using swear words to punctuate sentences.


Not everyone does these things.
But I noticed this behaviour is becoming more common.
People doing these things have made it very hard for me to talk with and relate to them.
These behaviours have worn me down: I feel paranoid and depressed, unable to trust others.

I think that I have missed out on so much socially because of the inconsiderate actions of other people.

I don't mind people drinking socially, I can cope with that, it's the anti-social drinking that's impeded my development.



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10 Aug 2010, 1:52 pm

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10 Aug 2010, 2:14 pm

Their ability to be with others for hours straight without tiring.


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10 Aug 2010, 2:21 pm

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Their ability to be with others for hours straight without tiring.


Their ability to be with others PERIOD :?


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10 Aug 2010, 5:24 pm

sentimentalism
touchy-feely(ness)
emotionalism
necessity to talk about nothing for the sake of talking about nothing
need to share every little detail of their lives
competitiveness
opportunism
narcissism
loving the sound of their own voice
need for pictures, pictures and some more pictures 8O
giggling
laughing at jokes heard at least zillion times before
need for "sharing" :duh:



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10 Aug 2010, 5:26 pm

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10 Aug 2010, 7:49 pm

*The need to share every detail of their lives such as "I just washed the car" via Twitter/FaceBook/LiveJournal
*Constantly peppering speech with TV joke references. I've heard them a thousand times. Why can't you be original and tell your own jokes?
*Prefering to believe things that sound nice (no matter how illogical and ridiculous) over the truth,



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10 Aug 2010, 8:29 pm

Blindspot149 wrote:
Their ability to be with others PERIOD :?


That depends on the person. :P
Because I can be with others, but not for over two hours.


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10 Aug 2010, 9:06 pm

That most NTs want to be like everyone else.


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10 Aug 2010, 10:53 pm

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11 Aug 2010, 5:19 am

The need to belittle.


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11 Aug 2010, 6:53 am

AmberEyes wrote:
Binge Drinking: saying gobbledy gook then being violently ill afterwards. Drinking Games.


+1

And thinking that's the only way of enjoying life and youth.

How can this be a norm ?



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11 Aug 2010, 1:02 pm

zena4 wrote:
Actually, the reverse psychology is often used in hypnotism for instance.
And it's meant to confuse.

It's meant to confuse the mental so as the person has to think otherwise as s/he usually does.
It can be a help to get out of a usual path and find another way to do things, or to think and feel about them.


There are definitely parallels with Ericksonian Hypnosis.
Confusing the subject to induce a hypnotic trance.

I notice that reverse pyschology is used a lot in advertising now.
Instead of persuading the audience to buy, the advert tells them that they "Really shouldn't buy". I find this incredibly irritating and I can see right through the persausion technique.

I heard just such a radio advert today. I thought that it was very insensitive. It contained a reference to a fictional syndrome. So it basically said: "Don't what ever you do buy...you'll get...syndrome." I know it was only meant to be a joke concocted by people who didn't know any better, but it ruined my morning.

This is one of the reasons why I don't listen to commercial radio any more.
It hurts my ears.

I wonder where this reverse pyschology technique of advertising came from.
Was this technique imported into my country from America?
Or did it originate from somewhere else?

Adverts where I come from never used to be this sophisticated.



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11 Aug 2010, 1:05 pm

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