Optimism and Reality: Goldfish21 Response to me

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What happens if Dr Li agrees that this form of therapy might not be applicable to all people with autism?

Whatever happens, happens, doesn’t it? Further, I have never once said that my therapy nor his hypothesis is applicable to all people with autism - only that I believe it is applicable to a lot more people than just myself.

Would you like to read what I think is the full study Dr. Li and his team wrote? You can read for yourself what ASD researchers think about all of this and you’ll see that they think it likely applies to a large %.

During the 1500s Martin Luther wrote Theses against the Catholic Church and the issues he saw with them. I'm going to start writing mine against positivism.

1. Positivism never states out what the constraints are to both the human race as a whole and individuals.

2. Positivism is based in belief and faith instead of reason, logic and critical thinking.

3. Positivism never states out how much positivity one is to have.

4. Positivism is not falsifiable.

5. Positivism does not allow one to search out or state out truth even if the truth is based in negativity.

6. Positivism presumes that self-esteem and optimism can be called upon with one's will.

7. Positivism denies negative emotions like anger, saddness, self-pity and demands we all be happy 24/7 instead of being allowed to fully display the range of emotions in a constructive manner.

8. Positivism presumes that positive emotions, optimism and positive self-esteem are 100% one's choice instead of issues with the brain or genetics.

9. Positivism denies that there are any victims at all including ones of circumstances. It assumes that one is the captain of one's own ship and that's that. Nothing else beyond that is possible.

where there's a will, there's a way.

i'm rather content with where i'm at in life myself but others on the spectrum tend to want more from life. they can have it if they're willing to put in the work. you don't have to do the work, but don't expect anything to change, which is fine if you're content with where you're at.

Thing is others would have to be willing to give them the work to do so this willingness would have to come from others as well.

It's similar to this.

You get what you put in.

This is BS and here is why. You only get what others allow you to have. Others set the rules, make the policies, have the keys and guard all of the doors.

Here is another reason why this phrase is BS. You can only put in what others allow you to put in. Again, Others set the rules, make the policies, have the keys and guard all of the doors.

Another thing, one can put in all the work one likes it is others who decide how productive and valuable it is and it is those others who also can set efficiency constraints.

Another Theses

10. Positivity never acknowledges other stakeholders that have influence as well. It treats you as though you're in a vaccum and not a part of a society that lives on planet Earth with constraints.

Another Theses Kraftie Kortie mentions. GF brings up the concept of grey areas.

11. Positivism never accepts that there are grey areas and there are differing levels and types of both positivity and negativity.

I have a job in which I'm making $252 per month or so. Yes, I searched for jobs and made the effort to go online and submit my applications. In the end, this particular company CHOSE to bring me on. They saw value in me and they defined what that value was. So, in the end my control over my life and positivism is limited.

Am I supposed to pick these depressive thoughts apart one by one, refute them, and explain what is wrong with them?

You like reading and writing. Read this book, cube, the knowledge within it's pages will help you to see your thought statements the way that I see them: (Yes, I have read it myself.)

https://www.amazon.com/Feeling-Good-New ... avid+burns

If you're willing to give it a read, I will gladly buy you a copy. Simply pm me your details.

No, you don't have to do anything you don't wish to do but I would love for you to explain using logic and reason what is wrong with them. No appeals to faith. No appeals to my emotions or trying to make me feel good.



Sure, I'm willing to read it and give it a gander. More then likely, it's not what I haven't read or heard before from others but again sure I'll read it. Maybe, I'll find some insight somewhere. What details do I specifically send to you exactly?

It's not that I don't have thoughts about your posts above, it's simply that it'd be quite time consuming to respond to each point one by one. Maybe I'll get around to it, maybe not - not gonna promise and then not deliver. It's just that I have a number of other things on the go that are of way higher priority to me and my life is all. Also, the way in which I would respond to your points is outlined in what's in this book, and that's a major reason why I'm recommending it - so that you then have the same tools I do to analyze and respond to your own thoughts. The ol' give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime!

I'll need your first & last name and full mailing address and then I'll order up a copy off of Amazon for ya, my friend.

Theses 12. Positivism is never open to question nor inquiry and it is always true. If you question it and its tenets then you're considered a negative person and of need of more positivism and optimism in one's life. It can't be that the dogma is flawed or there is more to it then others think. Sounds similar to this point on the orange papers and cult like thinking. https://www.orange-papers.info/orange-c ... l#cq_dogma

Theses 13. Positivism does not accept any alternative ways of approaching problems and life itself such as Defensive Pessimism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_pessimism Even the author in her book notates this when she tried to present her ideas to her colleagues.

Theses 14. Positivism does not address the fact that 51 million US households or 43% of the population can't even afford the basics. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 50535.html Why? Is it that all 43% of the population isn't positive enough? Are they to negative and to pessimistic? Are they simply depressed as well and that's the cause of their failures?

Keep up the good work, GF.

Thank you. A few kind words here and there go a long way - they're certainly noticed & appreciated since they stand out like bright stars in a sky full of dark insults and personal attacks that people here seem to think are perfectly acceptable to throw my way because they either don't understand, or believe, what I'm telling them. Fortunately, I have an extraordinarily thick skin when it comes to this stuff & tolerate it because it's worth it for the greater good of being able to share the message that I do, even if it's another 5 years before it's widely believed.

But, even without them from anyone on this forum, you should know by now that I'm never ever going to stop. Nothing can stop me - not even me.

Back on topic with the optimism: At least the hard science exists to completely validate everything I've been saying for the last half decade. Eventually others will learn, too, that this optimism is not "all in my head," but rather, quite literally, in my gut.

Gf, What if I was to state that there is no right or wrong and positivity or negativity but only power. It is those with power who set the rules and get the gold. They define the definitions and the terms and they define who gets the keys who unlock the doors and what and where the doors will be at. What if that is the truth of our civilization and all civilizations that exist now and have ever existed.

Then I would disagree with you, unless you also believe that we are able to influence and control our own levels of personal power and thus our own abilities to earn our own gold and make our own rules - then I could get on board with your power hypothesis.

I say this because I used to have no power or money. (And it’s commonly believed that money is power.) Now I have both, relative to what I used to have, anyways. There was no gatekeeper preventing me from earning money - only my own health that made me powerless. (Health is wealth, after all.) I made myself more powerful by making myself healthier, and then I went out and earned my own “gold.”