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25 May 2018, 1:55 pm

According to a notification from Amazon, cube got his book about an hour ago. Hopefully he has a beach nearby to read it at. And if not, well, hopefully there are blue skies above his backyard or a local park or something for some reading time in the sunshine. 8) (probably better.. I can't read at the beach - I've tried, too many ppl and too much going on, so I end up carrying it right back up the stairs having hardly read a paragraph.)


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25 May 2018, 5:47 pm

Theses 15. Positivism has this underlying assumption that one can overcome the law of supply and demand. Example: Can everyone who dreams to be in the NFL or the NBA actually do that? No, it is because there are only a limited amount of teams and positions for each team? How many people who dreamed of becoming an astronaut actually both worked hard for it and actually achieved it? How many astronauts exist currently?

Theses 16. Corollary to These 15. Positivism denies one's reality.



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25 May 2018, 5:51 pm

One might not be able to make it into the NBA.

But one could achieve success in many other ways other than the extremes of being in professional sports.



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25 May 2018, 6:22 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
One might not be able to make it into the NBA.

But one could achieve success in many other ways other than the extremes of being in professional sports.


That could be true but the point that I'm making is that we live in a world of both limits and opportunities. In fact, here is Theses 17.

Positivism makes the assumption that there is an even playing field when the truth is every has different circumstances, abilities and disabilities with some of those disabilities being more or less severe then others.

Theses 18. Positivism assumes we all have the same opportunities for success when we really do not.



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25 May 2018, 6:27 pm

No, we don't have the same opportunities---but we can be resourceful and CREATE them.



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25 May 2018, 6:49 pm

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No, we don't have the same opportunities---but we can be resourceful and CREATE them.


To an extent I agree. To me, I don't think it is so black and white. But, I will say this if I do see an opportunity or a way to create one for myself I will do so.

If I was this guy here I would take that job at the pizzeria if i could do it. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pizzeria-c ... y-parents/

Didn't GF speak about his experiences working with a friend who owned a restaurant? I think he did.



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25 May 2018, 8:11 pm

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:lol: Sounds like someone needs to go to the beach for a little reality check and a refill on optimism inducing vitamin D.

edit: It's crystal clear that you don't believe what I tell you, and not just about one topic, either. I post something, and you respond with "what I think is really going on is this.." Um, no. You don't get to tell me the way my life is any more than I get to make things up and tell you the way your life is. I certainly don't post anything like "EzraS treatments don't actually work for him, he just thinks they do," or "I don't think EzraS is nonverbal, what I think is really going on here is that he's just shy and refusing to speak," because I accept that what you post here and disclose about your Autism & your life is actually the way things are for you. Now perhaps you can begin to comprehend how absurd it is for you (and others who have done this recently - namely RainbowUnion) to come up with "alternative facts," to how my life really is as if I'm incapable of perceiving & expressing it myself.

I do hope you get to the beach for some Blue Space this Summer. I think it would do you (and anyone) a lot of good. Then perhaps you could be a little more optimistic about others also telling their truth vs. thinking they're lying to the extent that you have to come up with alternate theories of how you think their lives really are. As some quote from some movie goes: "Go West, young man." Like all the way to the Pacific. Take a break on the sand, soak up some Sun, watch the birds fly around, listen to the waves crashing.. think clearer & feel better. 8)


The difference is I have experts saying how the treatments they prescribe for me are working and why I'm nonverbal etc, rather than me coming up with it all on my own. As for blue space I live on a peninsula and can see the ocean from my window, I'm out on the beach all the time. However I don't imagine everyone else out there are friends of mine. If I recall correctly you post about drinking alcohol and smoking weed frequently, so that might explain a few things.



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25 May 2018, 9:01 pm

EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:

:lol: Sounds like someone needs to go to the beach for a little reality check and a refill on optimism inducing vitamin D.

edit: It's crystal clear that you don't believe what I tell you, and not just about one topic, either. I post something, and you respond with "what I think is really going on is this.." Um, no. You don't get to tell me the way my life is any more than I get to make things up and tell you the way your life is. I certainly don't post anything like "EzraS treatments don't actually work for him, he just thinks they do," or "I don't think EzraS is nonverbal, what I think is really going on here is that he's just shy and refusing to speak," because I accept that what you post here and disclose about your Autism & your life is actually the way things are for you. Now perhaps you can begin to comprehend how absurd it is for you (and others who have done this recently - namely RainbowUnion) to come up with "alternative facts," to how my life really is as if I'm incapable of perceiving & expressing it myself.

I do hope you get to the beach for some Blue Space this Summer. I think it would do you (and anyone) a lot of good. Then perhaps you could be a little more optimistic about others also telling their truth vs. thinking they're lying to the extent that you have to come up with alternate theories of how you think their lives really are. As some quote from some movie goes: "Go West, young man." Like all the way to the Pacific. Take a break on the sand, soak up some Sun, watch the birds fly around, listen to the waves crashing.. think clearer & feel better. 8)


The difference is I have experts saying how the treatments they prescribe for me are working and why I'm nonverbal etc, rather than me coming up with it all on my own. As for blue space I live on a peninsula and can see the ocean from my window, I'm out on the beach all the time. However I don't imagine everyone else out there are friends of mine. If I recall correctly you post about drinking alcohol and smoking weed frequently, so that might explain a few things.


When I was younger I smoked weed. It has bad effects on me.



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25 May 2018, 9:15 pm

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When I was younger I smoked weed. It has bad effects on me.


Whether good or bad effects, alcohol and cannabis usually alters a person's mood and perception. And if one is at some event where everyone is intoxicated, then they are probably quite friendly with each other at the time.

Based on my medical history I would expect weed to have a bad effect on me also.



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25 May 2018, 9:17 pm

EzraS wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
When I was younger I smoked weed. It has bad effects on me.


Whether good or bad effects, alcohol and cannabis usually alters a person's mood and perception. And if one is at some event where everyone is intoxicated, then they are probably quite friendly with each other at the time.


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25 May 2018, 9:17 pm

Weed can cause paranoia in certain people.



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25 May 2018, 9:30 pm

One setback of living right on the coast is seagulls craping on the car. There's something disgusting on the windshield in front of me.



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25 May 2018, 9:32 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Weed can cause paranoia in certain people.


I'm one of those ppl.



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25 May 2018, 9:36 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
Theses 15. Positivism has this underlying assumption that one can overcome the law of supply and demand. Example: Can everyone who dreams to be in the NFL or the NBA actually do that? No, it is because there are only a limited amount of teams and positions for each team? How many people who dreamed of becoming an astronaut actually both worked hard for it and actually achieved it? How many astronauts exist currently?

Theses 16. Corollary to These 15. Positivism denies one's reality.


But what if positivism defines one’s reality? What if 100% of the very few people who are astronauts became what they are because of who they are - someone who’s innately & automatically practiced positivism their entire lives?


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25 May 2018, 9:48 pm

And ironically I just arrived at the beach and it's low tide yepee. Beachcombing time.



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25 May 2018, 9:48 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
Theses 15. Positivism has this underlying assumption that one can overcome the law of supply and demand. Example: Can everyone who dreams to be in the NFL or the NBA actually do that? No, it is because there are only a limited amount of teams and positions for each team? How many people who dreamed of becoming an astronaut actually both worked hard for it and actually achieved it? How many astronauts exist currently?

Theses 16. Corollary to These 15. Positivism denies one's reality.


But what if positivism defines one’s reality? What if 100% of the very few people who are astronauts became what they are because of who they are - someone who’s innately & automatically practiced positivism their entire lives?


It could be a factor.

Oh, this is one thing I love to go and do. https://www.garenfest.com