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27 Jun 2009, 3:38 am

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I laugh at people's life, not their deaths. <.< Death is not a funny business.


While a bunch of morons on youtube may disagree, I agree. There's just so much serious complicated stuff associated to death amongst those that survive to take it lightly. In addition, I think we should respect the dead. Kinda like military rank...you don't have to respect the person to respect their rank. There's a reason why laws prohibit libeling a dead person and many Catholics say a prayer when passing an area of the dead (i.e. cemetaries).


You either have to be a moron, or else be A-Level sardonic. I prefer to place myself in the latter category. The death of Farrah Fawcett was a tragedy. The death of Michael Jackson was merely the closing act of a farce that has been going on for over a decade.


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27 Jun 2009, 5:01 am

Though he was (for good reasons) unpopular in his later years, it remains a fact that his music and incredible talent touched the lives of many. People genuinely appreciate the impact he has had on the world because they personally loved his music.

As for Farrah Fawcett, she seemed like a nice lady and I think people will miss her too.



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27 Jun 2009, 5:37 am

Honestly, I just felt relieved. That man's life was a hot mess and he was super creepy. :roll: He was so unhealthy and just looked weak and dazed all the time, probably from the prescription drugs. He talked just like Paula Abdul.
At least his "children" might have a chance at a normal life now. Hopefully the crazy fans buying Jackson records and memorabilia in the wake of his death will resolve some of his estate's debt and that burden won't be placed on the children. I'm sure Brangelina or Madonna will be happy to adopt them if their crazy mother doesn't get custody. :roll:

It's odd, I do feel sadder for Farrah Fawcett's death, but on the other hand there isn't as much to say about her, because she generally lived a very modest, normal and noncontroversial life compared to Jackson, and her cause of death was obvious and not shrouded in mystery.

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27 Jun 2009, 8:17 am

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But he was acquited meaning in law he is technically still under contempt of that crime because the evidence on both sides met a stalemate plus the fact his lawyers pretty much gave up on him that to me sounds pretty iffy especially if your own defence are like "oh crap"sadistic but because of the psychological transition he went through, its scary that he was 500 million in debt to lawyers though


Maybe you'd better look up the definition of "acquitted"... he was found innocent. He is not "technically still under contempt of that crime" (whatever that means)... Whether he was a pedophile or not, that particular case was bogus


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27 Jun 2009, 11:17 am

Quatermass wrote:
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I laugh at people's life, not their deaths. <.< Death is not a funny business.


While a bunch of morons on youtube may disagree, I agree. There's just so much serious complicated stuff associated to death amongst those that survive to take it lightly. In addition, I think we should respect the dead. Kinda like military rank...you don't have to respect the person to respect their rank. There's a reason why laws prohibit libeling a dead person and many Catholics say a prayer when passing an area of the dead (i.e. cemetaries).


You either have to be a moron, or else be A-Level sardonic. I prefer to place myself in the latter category. The death of Farrah Fawcett was a tragedy. The death of Michael Jackson was merely the closing act of a farce that has been going on for over a decade.


The way you put it sounded pretty serious and less humorous to me.



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27 Jun 2009, 2:26 pm

well, sort of. only because i wondered what it would be like if he became a zombie and started singing thriller :lol:


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27 Jun 2009, 4:08 pm

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well, sort of. only because i wondered what it would be like if he became a zombie and started singing thriller :lol:


:lmao: Very unexpected, but funny.



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27 Jun 2009, 7:06 pm

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The way you put it sounded pretty serious and less humorous to me.


It is dark, intellectual humour. And as for dalekaspie's assertion that he might become a zombie, well, he has been for the past decade. That's why he needed all the surgery. Part of it was to stitch bits back on. And just in case he turns out to be another kind of undead being, I am stocking up on my stakes, garlic, holy water and (just in case) silver bullets. You never know...


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27 Jun 2009, 8:30 pm

Quatermass wrote:
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The way you put it sounded pretty serious and less humorous to me.


It is dark, intellectual humour. And as for dalekaspie's assertion that he might become a zombie, well, he has been for the past decade. That's why he needed all the surgery. Part of it was to stitch bits back on. And just in case he turns out to be another kind of undead being, I am stocking up on my stakes, garlic, holy water and (just in case) silver bullets. You never know...


I guess that's my problem. I tend to look at most intellectual statements as serious, except for the square root of 69 being 8 something...that's freaking hillarious.



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27 Jun 2009, 9:20 pm

Well, i don't laugh at the actress because i hardly knew her. =/ so i can't comment, i should have mentionned that i will laugh at their life based on what i get to know o.O . And huh, Death is pretty much the one thing that makes us all equal, so out of respect, it's better not to laugh.... Well except when the conditions of death are incredibly out of this world, as some of the Darwin awards would show. <.<



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27 Jun 2009, 9:21 pm

Tantybi wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
Tantybi wrote:
The way you put it sounded pretty serious and less humorous to me.


It is dark, intellectual humour. And as for dalekaspie's assertion that he might become a zombie, well, he has been for the past decade. That's why he needed all the surgery. Part of it was to stitch bits back on. And just in case he turns out to be another kind of undead being, I am stocking up on my stakes, garlic, holy water and (just in case) silver bullets. You never know...


I guess that's my problem. I tend to look at most intellectual statements as serious, except for the square root of 69 being 8 something...that's freaking hillarious.


Oh, about his life being a farce wasn't a joke. It's my opinion. Although the fact that he could technically be classified as a non-human life-form because of the sheer amount of plastic in him...


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28 Jun 2009, 1:45 am

I don't laugh, I just find it trivial. People die every second. What's the big deal? A man is just that. A man. I am a bit disgusted by the undue significance society gives to certain individuals. Michael was a genius, but at the same time, just a man.

I think it highly unlikely he had much left as an artist. He has been solely a recluse for over a decade. I take it as is, he's gone. At least we have a wealth of his art that will hopefully live on as long as humanity.


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28 Jun 2009, 2:21 am

Quatermass wrote:
Tantybi wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
Tantybi wrote:
The way you put it sounded pretty serious and less humorous to me.


It is dark, intellectual humour. And as for dalekaspie's assertion that he might become a zombie, well, he has been for the past decade. That's why he needed all the surgery. Part of it was to stitch bits back on. And just in case he turns out to be another kind of undead being, I am stocking up on my stakes, garlic, holy water and (just in case) silver bullets. You never know...


I guess that's my problem. I tend to look at most intellectual statements as serious, except for the square root of 69 being 8 something...that's freaking hillarious.


Oh, about his life being a farce wasn't a joke. It's my opinion. Although the fact that he could technically be classified as a non-human life-form because of the sheer amount of plastic in him...


Facebook has the top fives, and I listed Michael Jackson as one of my top five fears (long time ago). So, maybe that's it. I totally agree that he was a plastic surgeon's worse patient to put a pic in a brochure, and maybe parts of him was falling off before he died, and IMO, the man sung and danced like a girl. He really took that 80's men wishing they were women mentality too far. I thought his little Coke or Pepsi or whatever commercial of screaming into the night was pretty gay too. He just always gave me the creeps in a very nauseous sex offender sort of way, and men I meet like that as an adult I don't fear, but he was the only dude to give me that feeling back in the 80's when I was a little kid. So I think that's why I really don't like him, so maybe all the insults anyone can dish out at him I will never see as insulting or disrespectful as much as just being honest. I cringe more when I hear people refer to him as an artist. Prince is an artist. Michael goes with Manson...more psycho than an artist but less psycho than your average serial killer. Really, his music was pop. Musical geniuses have a little more training than pop. Okay, now I have to find something pretty to read before I go to bed.



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28 Jun 2009, 3:06 am

No I didn't laugh. I didn't find it really surprising though, after all he'd put his body through. I did like some of his music and dancing from the eighties and earlier, but he was seriously messed up later in life. I think it's a bit said that he was such a cute and talented kid and he turned into ..well wacko Jacko..



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28 Jun 2009, 2:59 pm

It's funny to read things like "he was dead already, he died when his career died" etc.
In the media, yes. In his life and the lives of those who knew and loved him, no! He was still a living man, we do not know him, contrary to popular belief, the media does NOT give us an entire picture of peoples lives, in fact they focus on the bizarre and negative because that's what sells, when was the last time you read something positive and normal happening in Mr Jacksons life? As if there was nothing positive and normal in his life, that's what the media leads us to believe and people are stupid enough to believe them as if they know those people personally and document their everyday life to give us enough info so that we know them enough to make statements like "he died when his career died"
I'm relieved that it's over for him because honestly, he was treated both negatively and positively as something other than human from a very, very young age! and that is no mans life. Noone can survive that. IMHO.



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28 Jun 2009, 5:54 pm

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I'm relieved that it's over for him because honestly, he was treated both negatively and positively as something other than human from a very, very young age! and that is no mans life. Noone can survive that. IMHO.


Tom Baker. 'Nuff said. Of course, he barely survived that.


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