Are you dishonest?

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How can you still think you're in the right? It's blatantly obvious to everyone else that you're just being mean, yet you refuse to acknowledge this (the sarcasm doesn't count).

Really? How? I'm just dying to know.


"Could"? Yes, I could. But I wouldn't. There's a huge difference.

To be honest, I first saw you posting weeks ago, and even another Aspie could see that 99% of what you say is offensive. I'm honestly beginning to doubt you have AS, and wondering whether you're simply an NT troll trying to get jollies off messing with everyone here. (I just hope you've stayed away from threads asking for support.)

But yes, it does make me feel better that you've admitted your ignorance, and that you're not trying to do anything but cause trouble. Now, I hope your admittance of inferiority makes you listen a bit more to those who tell you what you're saying is offensive.

I aspire to do nothing but make you all feel better.

And now that my being on the spectrum has been called into question I guess I can assume I'm not welcome here and that nothing I say (except perhaps 1%) will be taken seriously?

And I'm being called the bully.

Priceless...

Well, clearly you're one of those people who just can't leave without the last word. All I (or anyone else, since others obviously agree) have to do is keep responding and pointing out that you're the one insulting, and you'll keep coming back. And if I believed you were logical enough to reason with - something which you've shown yourself incapable of - I would attempt to help you understand.

And no, you could not. You could make an apology that pretended to be sincere, by dropping out the obvious sarcasm. But you can't make a sincere apology for something you don't even believe in. You obviously cannot see that you were the one being insulting, despite copious amounts of evidence, so you cannot sincerely apologize for such.

Incidentally, you've played the supposed victim card a lot now, and no one has fallen for it yet. It might be time to try a new tactic.

I have never played the victim. I don't have that ability. Perhaps that's a bit of projection on your part...?
But then I s'pose there are copious amounts of evidence to the contrary.
And if you take a moment to read a bit farther back you will see that it was I who attempted to put this to rest first ("Fine, let me put an end to this stupidity: I am wrong.") Then you chose to make it your personal mission to re-itterate (over and over again) how I fail to measure up to you and your ill-conceived aspie-elitist behavior.

But unlike you I can stop.

You might lack the ability to comprehend - that I could see. I'd quote or tell you to read certain things again, but it hasn't worked so far. I actually don't see myself as the victim at all, so no, it's not projection.

You made a sarcastic post; that's hardly an actual try to resolve anything. It was another attempt to play the victim (because everyone is "so superior" to you), and it didn't work. Actually, I was ready to leave it at the insincere apology - you yourself had said you couldn't give a sincere one - but you continued anyway.

Again you're reading things that aren't there. I'm not questioning that you're on the spectrum; quite frankly, your inability to see points beyond your own to me that you are on the spectrum. Someone else has suggested you're not on the spectrum, and you seem to infer it anytime someone doesn't agree with you, but I actually think you are on there. You see what you want. I'm also not saying that I'm better than you; I'm saying you owe Daniel an apology.

If you could stop, I suspect you would have. You'll actually find multiple posts where I've walked out of arguments, but I don't take kindly to someone insulting someone I care for, so I don't particularly feel the urge to walk away.

WritersBlock has been identified me now as a forum bully, or at least someone who is primarily here to stir up trouble. This thread is very hypocritical on their part imo.

what's the difference between dishonesty and BS?

I'm unable to make up my mind how to vote, because I'm the worst of both. >_<

On the one hand, I'm very honest with my friends and strangers and stuff, to the point of insulting people with my quick and frank responses to things. I'm sure many aspies are familiar with that. I've learned that I'm TERRIBLE at telling a lie; my face somehow broadcasts loud and clear when I'm saying something untrue.

In the other hand, I can live a lie just fine; I'm an atheist living at home with my Christian fundimentalist parents, and have successfully pretended to be one of them for over 10 years now. I go to church every Sunday and volunteer occasionally with their functions and such, and do a pretty good job at it too. The old ladies there especially love getting hugs from me and everything... and all of it is pretend, all of it just an act that I put on to blend in for my own survival. I seem to be able to flip a switch in my brain at will, and become a Christian whenever I need to be one, even arguing FOR positions I'm truly and deeply against, just to maintain my cover.

I hate doing it, but I feel like it's necessary... and I still don't understand how I can be such a great liar in those circumstances but could never pull it off in any other setting. I wish I could be honest with everybody, but it'd torment my parents too much if they knew about me, so I pretty much have to wait until they're both gone before I can ever truly be myself.

I'm usually bluntly honest, but I learned when growing up how to be an excellent liar if needed. That said, I only lie when it's to protect something I see worth protecting. Meaning I'll be brutally honest in almost all cases of courtesies and niceties and tend to lie only when it's something like "Hey, I need some help for something this weekend, you busy?" Of course I'm never busy, I live in my dorm room and read and play video games. My response though "Oh yes, very busy, sorry man."

Lieing is never something that you want to do, but being a bad liar is a bad thing. It's definitely a useful skill.

I can and have lied. I would, however, classify myself as an honest person. As a general rule I do not tell white lies. I have lied out of fear and to avoid punishment but from what I understand of the general populace, I am by far a more honest person than many.

However, since there is no way to measure this, no one will ever know who is honest and who is not. And that breaks my heart I hate lying and liars.

I can and have lied in the past.

I classify myself as a relatively honest person.
As a personal philosophy, I occasionally tell a white lie.
I have lied to avoid "the truth" about anything.

However, I can tell if someone is lying just by staring at them.

I hate lying and people who lie.

I am honest but I am just as capable of lying as anyone else, but it makes me extremely nervous and very uncomfortable. I am just extremely obvious so...there is no point to lying because everyone can see through it. People also tend to think that I am lying when I'm being honest as well as serious. Something about the lack of excitement in my voice. *shrugs*

Does anyone watch that show Lie to Me? It would be interesting to know if Aspies could be caught in a lie using facial and body language analysis the same as NTs, or lie detectors.

I'm so honest that the only way I can lie is to tell the truth in such a way that is doesn't sound right. Definitely has its downside.

Q: Do these pants make my ass look fat?
A: No, you've gained a lot of weight since you last wore them.