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14 Jun 2010, 7:53 pm

I'm usually seen as smart by others, but it's not the traditional smart. It's a warped sense of smart that I'm good at school work but mentally deficient at everything else. If someone sees me at a more social event, I'm the idiot of the crowd. But if the same person met me at school they'd see me as intelligent. Either way, the person probably wouldn't take a liking to me.



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15 Jun 2010, 2:08 am

I have strong opinions and I tend to be fairly vocal and articulate in expressing them (even when sometimes I shouldn't), so people see me as smart, but that hasn't really been a good thing for me. People feel intimidated and resentful, or think that I find them not as smart as me, even though I don't talk down to them and if anything try to be down-to-earth. It has caused me some significant problems with "friends." (I'm eligible to join Mensa, so there is some actual evidence and I am not just delusional. :D )



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15 Jun 2010, 2:15 am

Yes, there are funny times when people think I'm intelligent. I don't believe them, but if they say so......

-here are some phrases "Rastacat you Brilliant B-st" (on a Calgary Flames forum. I think I some poster was named "Mars" So I wrote on his private message "Douglas Quaid.... get yourself to Mars get your Self to Mars Get yourself to Mars Get yourself to Mars get yourself to Mars......." (when Cohagen's men shot the laptop, and it was skipping on Total Recall by Arnie Swartzenieger)

-Or I posted to another poster's question why I'm not single? I answered because the Canadian government wants to take over the world and we need an ambitious baby boom for that, to up our population from 30 million to 50 million. Then he posts it on his sig.

So I guess I'm amusing people with my funnies. I don't think I am.

-My Mormon mentor, although I'm not a Mormon anymore, (I'd explain why, but this is the Autism forum not the exmormon forum (you can find out what at "recovered from Mormonism" forum. Anyways, she's still my close advisory and friend. Who has a brother who may also be an Aspergers or at least has one of those benevolent disorders (like ADD) or others associated with unconventional but high brain activity. She refereed to the both of us having a brain much like a "Daddy car" (you know those very very powerful an fast cars (laughing at the Fail picture of the sports car totaled because the son went for a drive and it only had a few miles on it), you take it only for a show, but it's impractical to drive Unless you're made of money and can replace it. She said that our brains were like those cars, very fast fancy, but very impractical (ie dings on the paint, gravel trucks, speeding tickets car jacking. Like you're driving a car like that you're just asking for some kid to steal it), or if you're relatively young some cop asking silly questions about it.

-Another time my brother was having a party and one of his friends commented "you know your brother is pretty smart", but then I had to go and blurt some party induced fun overboard gibberish. "uhhgh except when he's like this". I think I was screaming "Holy S my pants are on fire" (On this note I wonder... although its hard for me to socialize and at parties, when I do infrequently break the mold and go wild. (I'll make a post about this another time), in this case my pants wern't really on fire I was just being wacky.

-A co-worker upon parting (I wasn't selected to stay after a 3 month probation), told me "you're, smarter than you actually let up". (My clumsiness and time and spatial deficiencies made my grounds keeping work look like a keystone caper clown sequence).



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15 Jun 2010, 3:11 am

bee33 wrote:
I have strong opinions and I tend to be fairly vocal and articulate in expressing them (even when sometimes I shouldn't), so people see me as smart, but that hasn't really been a good thing for me. People feel intimidated and resentful, or think that I find them not as smart as me, even though I don't talk down to them and if anything try to be down-to-earth. It has caused me some significant problems with "friends." (I'm eligible to join Mensa, so there is some actual evidence and I am not just delusional. :D )


Same here. My area of smarts are being able to form my own opinions & to think for myself instead of mindlessly fallowing others like lemmings. Some people assume I'm stupid because I express opinions that differ from the reality MTV culture. I generally feel society(at least in America) is kinda stupid thou they think I'm the stupid one.


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15 Jun 2010, 3:15 am

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bee33 wrote:
I have strong opinions and I tend to be fairly vocal and articulate in expressing them (even when sometimes I shouldn't), so people see me as smart, but that hasn't really been a good thing for me. People feel intimidated and resentful, or think that I find them not as smart as me, even though I don't talk down to them and if anything try to be down-to-earth. It has caused me some significant problems with "friends." (I'm eligible to join Mensa, so there is some actual evidence and I am not just delusional. :D )


Same here. My area of smarts are being able to form my own opinions & to think for myself instead of mindlessly fallowing others like lemmings. Some people assume I'm stupid because I express opinions that differ from the reality MTV culture. I generally feel society(at least in America) is kinda stupid thou they think I'm the stupid one
My therapist seems to believe that thinking for yourself is a dysfunctional maladaptation.



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15 Jun 2010, 9:51 am

It depends on the situation I am in when they are seeing me/ talking to me.

If they see me when I'm writing then they assume I'm slow or brain-damaged or something.
If they see me struggle to pass even in the 'lower' math class then the same thing.
If they see me draw something they used to think I was a genius, but I'm out of practice now so they just kind of clue in to my not being quite as stupid as they thought I was. It's too bad, the positive attention broke the monotony of being the school 'ret*d'.
Now it's just boring. :(
Ditto for typing out a story, debating someone over social issues or doing anything else 'creative' except for music. You've got to, y'know, not see things backwards to be able to read the stuff. Or up-side down.

I don't know.



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15 Jun 2010, 12:04 pm

My answer to this would have to be both yes & no since, some people have perceived me as being very bright while others have seen me as being intensely stupid even from some people here on WP.Anyways, that matter shall be dealt with accordingly and diplomatically shall I say. Still, it's hard to help others both NT & AS see the whole person though, I've not given up on this just yet..



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15 Jun 2010, 1:27 pm

Depends on the person. If it's my parents, I'm a complete ret*d. If it's my brother, his girlfriend, or someone else online usually, they say I'm really smart. Someone online once told me they couldn't get better help than me, as I knew many things about royalty.


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15 Jun 2010, 2:06 pm

I have been told that, not only am I intelligent, but I am too intelligent.

I must be doing something right.

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15 Jun 2010, 6:26 pm

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People have told me that I come across as intelligent, and I'm not sure why (maybe because I wear glasses?). In fact one person told ne they thought my intellect accounted for my odd behaviour.

Has anyone else encountered this? Why do you think we come across as intelligent?


I think when I was younger I might be considered "intelligent". I don't think people are as impressed with me now. A lot of people see me as quiet and wondering what is going on in my head. I am stupid when my anxiety spikes. I forget everything and my brain doesn't work. For example, I can count change just fine when I'm alone etc. But when I'm working with people I get nervous and I get totally flustered counting change. I helped out at a trade show and totally tripped up giving change out to people. Talk about embarrassing.... :oops:

Glasses can change a lot of things...
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15 Jun 2010, 8:14 pm

Yes. Then again, I also wear glasses :lol: So... Since the only way I can really converse is through sharing things I've read, I can see why it would seem that way. My speech pathologist says I seem too smart and it is intimidating. . . Whatever :roll:


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16 Jun 2010, 3:51 am

they sure as hell do these days; I've been told constantly "you're an intellect, and a scholar".

The difference between now and like 10 years ago is...I feel like one now too :lol:



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16 Jun 2010, 3:53 am

bee33 wrote:
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bee33 wrote:
I have strong opinions and I tend to be fairly vocal and articulate in expressing them (even when sometimes I shouldn't), so people see me as smart, but that hasn't really been a good thing for me. People feel intimidated and resentful, or think that I find them not as smart as me, even though I don't talk down to them and if anything try to be down-to-earth. It has caused me some significant problems with "friends." (I'm eligible to join Mensa, so there is some actual evidence and I am not just delusional. :D )


Same here. My area of smarts are being able to form my own opinions & to think for myself instead of mindlessly fallowing others like lemmings. Some people assume I'm stupid because I express opinions that differ from the reality MTV culture. I generally feel society(at least in America) is kinda stupid thou they think I'm the stupid one
My therapist seems to believe that thinking for yourself is a dysfunctional maladaptation.


Some professionals do feel like that. Have you even noticed how most anything mental that is different from the norm is considered a so-called disorder or syndrome :?: Take Aspergers for example; it causes us to be different from NTs & sense this is an NT word; we have problems. The problem is not having AS; the problem is that we are different from others. The world rewarded conformity instead of individuality :evil:

My parents(particularly my mom) tell me I'm to smart to be on disability. My mom actually tells me that I should of been a lawyer simply because I have lots of arguments with her about things & my dad tells me that I should be some kind of computer programmer because I help him with computer things cuz he doesn't know much bout em. I feel my parents think I'm much smarter than I really am.


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16 Jun 2010, 3:56 am

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My parents(particularly my mom) tell me I'm to smart to be on disability. My mom actully tells me that I should of been a lawer because I'm good at arguing with her about things & my dad tells me that I should be some kind of computer programmer because I help him with things cuz he doesn't know much bout em. I feel my parents think I'm much smarter than I really am.


My parents to the exact same thing! Literally, my mum says I should be a lawyer and my dad says the same about computers and he too is useless at them, I have to help him to search Google :lol:

But no, I'm going to be a hedge fund manager! That's where the real money is!



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16 Jun 2010, 3:56 am

Intelligence doesn't exist by human standards. It logically cannot.

However, I am intelligent because I am self-aware. Is this what you are asking?

I assume people think I am self-aware.


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16 Jun 2010, 4:02 am

Ferdinand wrote:
Intelligence doesn't exist by human standards. It logically cannot.

However, I am intelligent because I am self-aware. Is this what you are asking?

I assume people think I am self-aware.


I partially agree, because humans are more emotional than logical; if you need proof, ask Cicero.