What's your IQ?
I really don't agree. I am absolute sh** at math. Adding is even hard for me sometimes.
But I do feel special for being the only one in my catagory.
You're a multiple? Or you were a multiple?
Are you the same person who sympathized with me on a thread in the Haven? And are you the same person who was saying being male sucks and it would be better to be female? It's fine whether or not you are, but I'd like to know who I'm talking to.
I had one personality that dealt with life and another that dealt with the memories. The split into two was a result of trauma at a very early age and a similarly traumatic life. I was semi merged for awhile but I was still two. We merged somewhere in February, I think, right as the two personalities started being able to interact and work with eachother.
The person who sympathized with you was very likely the same as the person who thought it was better to be female. The personality that dealt with the memories rarely ever came out.
Now it's just me. I'm both personalities mixed. Yellow and blue making green. It seems to have bothered you. I apologize if it did. I did try making it clear who was talking near the end. Or we did.
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Why do you ask questions like this? You know the average internet user is at least 40 IQ points smarter than the average human, just like the average penis length of male internet users is between 10 and 15 inches.
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How well you do on this one?
That Spanish Raven one? I just took it and got 58/60 (136). Which is much higher than what I got on the Matrix Reasoning subtest, which was much harder than this online one (which I basically barely even had to think about, just went with what "looked right"). There's also another online Raven-like one that is much harder than this one.
The harder Raven-like one is here:
http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf
I got 108 on that one. Which is much closer (though slightly lower) to my real score on the Matrix Reasoning subtest, and contained some of the more perplexing types of questions that I remember vaguely from that subtest. Oh, and if you get confused on how to end that test, you have to mouse over the word "Menu" and then click "Send" when you're done, very nonintuitive.
Those matrix tests give results much more closer to what we can expect from you whatsoever. (That your general score on IQ tests that is.)
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I totally disapprove of any and all attempts to tell me what my "real" IQ is. An IQ is a test result, not a trait inside a person. I scored somewhat low on a standard test because I genuinely have pretty extreme "holes" in my cognitive abilities that happen to coincide with the last test I took. Acting like those holes don't exist is just as offensive as acting like my abilities don't exist. I'm sick to death of people telling me the score I got must be "wrong" in some way just because they have illusions in their heads about cognitive abilities in general and mine in particular. On the real test I had two scores above average (block design and matrix reasoning) and the rest weren't. An IQ score accurately represents the ability to take the test in question. It says nothing about abilities that aren't tested.
And saying that a person's score is "too low" if they have (or seem to have) a talent, is insulting to people who score low (who can be just as talented as anyone else -- unless every talented person who scores low is systematically given a higher score... which is circular reasoning). I've spent half my life around people who score about my range and below. It's obvious a lot of people here either haven't, or haven't gotten to know people very well. Otherwise they wouldn't say prejudiced things like "you seem too smart for that score".
Low IQ doesn't mean stupid, it's just a test score. What it does mean is that the person has significant differences from usual in sensory, cognitive, motor, class, prior schooling, or cultural areas. Which is true of me in three of those areas. I actually had to do really well in a couple areas to pull my score as high as it was, as my lowest subscale scores were quite low. I scored higher in very young childhood because I could read at an age where most kids can't. But I've been tested twice since, doing my best each time, and never tested Anythibg close to that range again. (Which is why I suspect my score is even lower now -- it's been going in that direction a long time now because my developmental trajectory doesn't even remotely resemble a typical one. I am getting better and better at skills that aren't on the tests, and the tradeoff is I'm losing testable skills.)
Anyway I am always wary of giving out scores because it hurts to be told that I'm somehow not "supposed to" test that way, or that ANY score is my "real" score.
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I have fifteen years old and I have Asperger's; the MENSA test claimed my Intelligence Quotient to be 145. However, I have taken a couple of other tests that have placed me between 130-150. I just guess that mine is approximately between 135-145. It is, though, just a number. It surely doesn't determine much about your existence. I'm not making all 100s on everything... in fact, my grades in mathematics are between average and below-average. As anbuend stated above me, as people with ASDs, we all have different strengths and weaknesses than most people do (not to mention that we all have different strengths and weaknesses among people with ASDs), so IQ isn't a really good measurement of intelligence. In fact, the concept developed in the early 1900s and it was used to determine the intelligence of little French schoolchildren. People take it way too seriously nowadays. What really pisses me off is when they tie certain IQ scores to people who never took the test (ex. Einstein, Newton)... Oh well.
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It's okay. It happens a lot. I'm used to it. I just like to say something about it.
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And saying that a person's score is "too low" if they have (or seem to have) a talent, is insulting to people who score low (who can be just as talented as anyone else -- unless every talented person who scores low is systematically given a higher score... which is circular reasoning). I've spent half my life around people who score about my range and below. It's obvious a lot of people here either haven't, or haven't gotten to know people very well. Otherwise they wouldn't say prejudiced things like "you seem too smart for that score".
Low IQ doesn't mean stupid, it's just a test score. What it does mean is that the person has significant differences from usual in sensory, cognitive, motor, class, prior schooling, or cultural areas. Which is true of me in three of those areas. I actually had to do really well in a couple areas to pull my score as high as it was, as my lowest subscale scores were quite low. I scored higher in very young childhood because I could read at an age where most kids can't. But I've been tested twice since, doing my best each time, and never tested Anythibg close to that range again. (Which is why I suspect my score is even lower now -- it's been going in that direction a long time now because my developmental trajectory doesn't even remotely resemble a typical one. I am getting better and better at skills that aren't on the tests, and the tradeoff is I'm losing testable skills.)
Anyway I am always wary of giving out scores because it hurts to be told that I'm somehow not "supposed to" test that way, or that ANY score is my "real" score.
It has taken me most of a decade to get this, but I think it's finally sinking in. For awhile I was one of the people saying "too smart for that score" when presented with clear signs of mental ability in a person with a low score. I simply assumed the score was incorrect for some reason. I probably did this in some of your posts in the past. Sorry. More recently I realize that rather than mentally assigning people a higher score when they "seemed smart", I needed to re-evaluate my whole concept of what thinking is. I am officially abandoning the "point on a line" theory of intelligence. If it must be visualized, perhaps fluctuations around a web would be better. Better yet to not try to measure it at all.
The sub-tests seem useful. They measure discrete skills. The problem seems to come when the subtests are lumped together and an overall score is given. Then people lose sight of something they were still aware of when just looking at the sub-test score: that the only thing that has been measured is a discrete skill at that time, nothing fixed or overall.
My official IQ is 111. When I sought my diagnosis in 2008 as an adult, many things were going through my mind. My main concern was that whatever diagnosis I got would be as accurate as professionally possible. As a gifted intervention specialist, I knew that people identified as gifted (IQ of approximately 126 and up) can be confused with someone with Asperger's---and vice versa. It is astonishing to look at the similarities in people with Asperger's and people who are gifted. They look very similar, but yet actually so different. My official IQ had been taken while I was still in school years ago, and I made arrangements to get my IQ test. And I discovered my IQ at 111. This made me realize that my professional diagnosis of Asperger's was correct (according to the criteria). I have looked at things that can be confused for Asperger's, and on my road of self-discovery, I have been able to rule out everything but Asperger's. For those with IQs in the gifted range (approximately 126 and up), you may want to look at the traits of the gifted and see how similar they are to Asperger's. Could you actually be gifted? People who are both gifted and have Asperger's are called twice-gifted.
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I can see why you might find it irritating, but not why you would find it offensive. People are sometimes surprised by my abilities/lack of in some areas. So what?
It's not the surprise at my abilities, it's the assumptions about the abilities of people with IQs lower than a certain amount.
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Yeah, I don't mind the whole concepts of subtests testing particular abilities (as long as it's acknowledged the limitations of such testing on certain people) at particular points in time. It's the whole thing where people confuse all this with some generic concept called "intelligence". To me, intelligence isn't about what cognitive abilities you have, it's about what you do with what you've got, and it should never be confused with a test score.
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