how can someone be proud of having aspergers?
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Panic wrote:
Im sorry but you make still make no sense at all, there is nothing to be proud of being disabled, period, It dosent matter what you believe, it is nothing to be proud of, its written on the stone of logic, period, you should know this as aspies tend to be logical.
The problem with logic is "garbage in, garbage out." While you can make a logically sound argument, the data you are interpreting with your logic may be wrong.
In this case, your data are wrong - the claims you make about what Aspies are supposed to be like are easily falsified, and thus the information you're trying to use to support your logic is not valid, thus your logic itself is invalidated.
I explained how it works: Pride in this context is the antonym of shame. I am not ashamed of my disabilities. Therefore, it is possible for me to state that I am proud of myself as a disabled person because I do not feel shame. Note that this logic does not claim that a pride stance is required. Just that it is available.
That is simple logic, fits exactly what I said, and the "pride as an antonym of shame" is a common usage, explicitly described in the gay rights movement especially.
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Am I proud that I have constant Anxiety over the smallest things? no
Am I proud I cant think social or have a good theory of mind? no
Your answer to these is apparently "yes"
Am I proud I cant think social or have a good theory of mind? no
Your answer to these is apparently "yes"
You are creating your own version of what I said and then saying that I really said those things. You're interpreting things into my words. The things you list are part of the cost of being autistic. I am fine with them. I do not really mind that my social perceptions are not like an NT's and I have developed coping mechanisms to some extent to ease my lack of instinctive social understanding. I have learned to manage my anxiety to some extent over the years. In neither case do I have anything to be ashamed of, however.
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so now, as you can seem it is really illogical of you to say your proud of AS, it towards a a state of total delusion that you are in.
I am not delusional at all. As a point of fact, this is one thing I've gone over at length in therapy and my therapist appreciates my grasp on the realities of my conditions (to a point - we disagree on particulars) as well as my ability to develop coping skills to handle my disabilities.
I am not you. I do not view myself in the same way you view yourself. We are two different people with different thoughts. The only options available are not "Think the same way Panic thinks" or "think differently from Panic and be delusional." You're engaged in an extreme form of black and white thinking, which is a pretty good trick given that black and white thinking is already extreme by definition.
Stop attacking me because I do not agree with you or see the world the way you think all Aspies should see the world. You aren't in any position to diagnose or undiagnose anyone, to tell any of us that we are required to see things your way or we're delusional or not really autistic. It's okay for you to explain where you're coming from but it's not okay for you to try to impose where you're coming from on everyone else. So: Just stop.