Aspergers and Psychic Experiences
Great! Remember to never play "20 Questions" or the like with those who make the attempt.
My hostility is borne out of the having once believed in all things "Spiritual", seeking out training in the Spiritual Arts, and being taught instead how to con people and fleece them of their hard-earned money.
Good for you! I'm not really all that interested in convincing anyone that the Spiritual Arts are not real; I am only interested in a valid demonstration of alleged psychic abilities.
I'm finding that out, too ... there seems to be a close correlation between strength of faith and a person's inability to provide evidence for their "Spiritual" claims.
Cool! Remember, no hints; and tell no one what's in the container, what the container is, and where the container is located until the "Big Reveal".
PS: I will NEVER acknowledge a failed guess, whether in whole or in part. I will acknowledge ONLY a complete and successful claim.
My son did this Halloween 2010 at a Halloween party. He was 5. They had a cardboard divider with holes the size for a childs hand to fit through with cloth draped so you couldn't see what was in the container behind.
The game was that he was supposed to stick his hand in and tell them the objects by what they feel like. He misunderstood the directions (aspie) and without putting his hand in the hole just stood there looking at the draped cardboard and said "A book with no pictures and a big spoon"
The poor old lady working the booth about dropped to the floor. and then she picked up a novel and a wooden cooking spoon from the container and held them out for us to see.
I don't know if he could do this at a distance as you are asking, if he could, who know's what items from what box he would pick up on if he could. But anyway, along with the fact that it kind of feels like exploiting him into a gimmick or party trick there's the possibility of running the risk of giving him the idea to start 'guessing or seeing' what's in his x-mas packages under the tree. LOL, I don't want to give him any ideas. Although he may already know and just playing along with us that he doesn't.
Anyway, it's probably not enough proof for you, but some people can do it. Also note that for my son at least, it's not something he does on comand usually, it's more of something that just pops into his head without prompting, although the halloween party he was asked and answered matter of factly and was wondering what was the big deal and how was that a game.
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Looks like I'm most likely and Aspie myself, must be why I can understand my beautiful Aspie son so well.
Your Aspie score: 168 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 39 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie
The game was that he was supposed to stick his hand in and tell them the objects by what they feel like. He misunderstood the directions (aspie) and without putting his hand in the hole just stood there looking at the draped cardboard and said "A book with no pictures and a big spoon"
The poor old lady working the booth about dropped to the floor. and then she picked up a novel and a wooden cooking spoon from the container and held them out for us to see.
I don't know if he could do this at a distance as you are asking, if he could, who know's what items from what box he would pick up on if he could. But anyway, along with the fact that it kind of feels like exploiting him into a gimmick or party trick there's the possibility of running the risk of giving him the idea to start 'guessing or seeing' what's in his x-mas packages under the tree. LOL, I don't want to give him any ideas. Although he may already know and just playing along with us that he doesn't.
Anyway, it's probably not enough proof for you, but some people can do it. Also note that for my son at least, it's not something he does on comand usually, it's more of something that just pops into his head without prompting, although the halloween party he was asked and answered matter of factly and was wondering what was the big deal and how was that a game.
You don't think maybe he saw the contents before? Or overheard a conversation about them?
So can I. Here are five predictions for the upcoming year:
(1) People will post messages on WP asking if they are on the spectrum. They will receive replies saying that if they think they are, they probably are.
(2) People will post messages saying that they can tell that someone is on the spectrum just by looking at them.
(3) Other people will post messages listing a number of feelings / experiences / behaviours etc and diagnose themselves as being on the spectrum.
(4) Yet other people will diagnose someone they know as being on the spectrum on the basis of attitudes / behaviours / etc.
(5) Then there will those who say that "NTs do this [fill in the blank with your favourite hobbyhorse] and that those on the spectrum do this [fill in the blank with your other favourite hobbyhorse].
Can I have my million dollars now, please?
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Weekly. The most recent experience I had, I saw the ghost of my dead cat Jess sitting on my bed. I could see him out of the corner of my eye, his tail was swaying from side to side. When I spun around, there was nothing there. I regularly have spirutal experiences, it's quite odd actually. I'm kinda not completely connected to reality so I tend to see things.
The game was that he was supposed to stick his hand in and tell them the objects by what they feel like. He misunderstood the directions (aspie) and without putting his hand in the hole just stood there looking at the draped cardboard and said "A book with no pictures and a big spoon"
The poor old lady working the booth about dropped to the floor. and then she picked up a novel and a wooden cooking spoon from the container and held them out for us to see.
I don't know if he could do this at a distance as you are asking, if he could, who know's what items from what box he would pick up on if he could. But anyway, along with the fact that it kind of feels like exploiting him into a gimmick or party trick there's the possibility of running the risk of giving him the idea to start 'guessing or seeing' what's in his x-mas packages under the tree. LOL, I don't want to give him any ideas. Although he may already know and just playing along with us that he doesn't.
Anyway, it's probably not enough proof for you, but some people can do it. Also note that for my son at least, it's not something he does on comand usually, it's more of something that just pops into his head without prompting, although the halloween party he was asked and answered matter of factly and was wondering what was the big deal and how was that a game.
You don't think maybe he saw the contents before? Or overheard a conversation about them?
No, it was a kiddie carnival thing where we just entered and went through the line so we weren't there when they were setting up, didn't know anyone who was involved with setting up and it was completely covered, I couldn't see anything and I had a height advantage over him. He really did correctly 'guess' a couple of the items out of nowhere.
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Looks like I'm most likely and Aspie myself, must be why I can understand my beautiful Aspie son so well.
Your Aspie score: 168 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 39 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie
and that's what I'm trying to figure out. My son is very fuzzy on the difference between reality and fantasy, movies and video games are seriously real to him, he's really balancing between two worlds it seems and this makes me wonder if that is giving him an advantage for psychic ability. He seems to be not weighed down by reality if you know what I mean, but not in a crazy way, it's consistent the things that he talks about seeing and knowing, doesn't seem like hallucinations you know?
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Looks like I'm most likely and Aspie myself, must be why I can understand my beautiful Aspie son so well.
Your Aspie score: 168 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 39 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie
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and that's what I'm trying to figure out. My son is very fuzzy on the difference between reality and fantasy, movies and video games are seriously real to him, he's really balancing between two worlds it seems and this makes me wonder if that is giving him an advantage for psychic ability. He seems to be not weighed down by reality if you know what I mean, but not in a crazy way, it's consistent the things that he talks about seeing and knowing, doesn't seem like hallucinations you know?
I don't hallucinate. My sense of reality is obviously different to others, but not to the point where I'm delusional. I see the world in a very different way to most people because I've figured out that I can create and shape my own reality. I've had out of body experiences before that have helped me to realise that all and everything is the same thing, yet experiencing itself subjectively and manifesting itself as characters, situations and objects.
I am highly empathic and quite frankly it can be a real pain in the ass. A lot of times I pick up what other people are feeling and the emotions are so strong they eclipse my own. I have had to learn to separate in my mind what's me and what belongs to others. Once I went to a friend's to help set up for a dinner party and there was another woman already there who I didn't know. We were working and not really talking, and the longer I was there the more depressed I became. I found myself wondering what the point was in staying alive and thinking suicide wasn't a bad option. I started to feel sick to my stomach and had to leave the house. A 3rd friend and I got in the car and went and did some errands and I started to feel better. When we came back the woman was gone. I asked my friend (whose house it was), who was this other woman's rabbi, if she had a problem with depression and my friend confirmed that she did. That's the worst experience I've ever had like that.
I never attributed this to any kind of psychic ability, I just figured I must be perceiving something natural and ordinary that most people don't perceive and that I can't even point out or identify. I assume growing up with my mother trained me to do this because it was necessary to my survival to know what her emotions were, because she has issues that I can't put a name to.
and that's what I'm trying to figure out. My son is very fuzzy on the difference between reality and fantasy, movies and video games are seriously real to him, he's really balancing between two worlds it seems and this makes me wonder if that is giving him an advantage for psychic ability. He seems to be not weighed down by reality if you know what I mean, but not in a crazy way, it's consistent the things that he talks about seeing and knowing, doesn't seem like hallucinations you know?
I don't hallucinate. My sense of reality is obviously different to others, but not to the point where I'm delusional. I see the world in a very different way to most people because I've figured out that I can create and shape my own reality. I've had out of body experiences before that have helped me to realise that all and everything is the same thing, yet experiencing itself subjectively and manifesting itself as characters, situations and objects.
please don't think I was thinking you are hallucinating or delusional, I get what you are saying, it reminds me so much of my son. This is what I was hoping to find, others who are similar to him that can help me understand some of the things he does.
Same with what InTheDeepEnd is talking about, it's so hard for me sometimes with my son. I've learned that if I'm angry or sad I can't hide it from him, I have to be honest so that he doesn't blame himself for my emotions.
It's an awesome ability but at his age it can cause a lot of problems, I'm hoping to find ways to help him while he's still so young and immature for such deep things.
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Looks like I'm most likely and Aspie myself, must be why I can understand my beautiful Aspie son so well.
Your Aspie score: 168 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 39 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie
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and that's what I'm trying to figure out. My son is very fuzzy on the difference between reality and fantasy, movies and video games are seriously real to him, he's really balancing between two worlds it seems and this makes me wonder if that is giving him an advantage for psychic ability. He seems to be not weighed down by reality if you know what I mean, but not in a crazy way, it's consistent the things that he talks about seeing and knowing, doesn't seem like hallucinations you know?
I don't hallucinate. My sense of reality is obviously different to others, but not to the point where I'm delusional. I see the world in a very different way to most people because I've figured out that I can create and shape my own reality. I've had out of body experiences before that have helped me to realise that all and everything is the same thing, yet experiencing itself subjectively and manifesting itself as characters, situations and objects.
please don't think I was thinking you are hallucinating or delusional, I get what you are saying, it reminds me so much of my son. This is what I was hoping to find, others who are similar to him that can help me understand some of the things he does.
Same with what InTheDeepEnd is talking about, it's so hard for me sometimes with my son. I've learned that if I'm angry or sad I can't hide it from him, I have to be honest so that he doesn't blame himself for my emotions.
It's an awesome ability but at his age it can cause a lot of problems, I'm hoping to find ways to help him while he's still so young and immature for such deep things.
It's ok, I didn't think you were saying that anyway :3
I just tend to describe it to people in that way because people don't seem to get what I'm saying to them usually when I talk about this sort of stuff. Also, you seem like a good parent. The truth is, reality is very cold, hard and upsetting and alot of aspie type people usually escape to an inner bubble to get away from it. I view it as a healthy reaction to a seriously flawed society I think your son is fine, and will be fine if you continue looking out for him. Sounds like me when I was younger!
I am new here so hope it is ok to post about my son in this forum. I have a 13 year old who I consider very empathic. He also has a lot of feminine energy and has not quite peaked yet in pueberty. I have often noticed he picks up on my mood and thoughts and just sometimes "knows things". While my son was not diagnosed AS (big mistake IMO) he was diagnosed with TS, Anxiety, OCD and ADHD. I think it is because of these very characteristics that he was misdiagnosed.
I'm strongly intuitive. Used to think it was psychic, but then I read up on psychology and realised that my subconscious was likely noticing vast amounts of behaviours, trends and patterns. So the 'visions' I had were likely conscious interpretations of such information being made sense of. The more I consciously observed it though, the more I noticed the error rate and how they worked.
@Fnord: There's likely no box because you know how ridiculous the idea is and figured you'd give people a good tease. That's not me being "psychic", that's just me thinking you're having some fun here.
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