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10 Oct 2011, 10:12 am

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I didn't make the video. I found it on youtube.


Funny that you're wasting your time with this.

Starting a discussion combining autism with hatred.

I have seen your generally simplified combinations before...

Why are you wasting your time?


I don't understand what you guys keep confusing about my topic. I'm not trying to "combine autism with hatred", though the video is (And that part of the video you're going to have to ignore.).

1) A small percentage of aspies are misanthropic
2) There's a vocal misanthropic minority on WP
3) Misanthropists who aren't autistic relate to this vocal minority
4) Misanthropists, including NTs, around the world join to share the hate.
5) The vocal minanthropic minority becomes even larger, given a false impression of how most autistics actually feel about NTs.
6) Because of 5, people with an agenda are enabled to make videos like in the original post.

What I'm asking about is whether the dynamic in between 2-4 actually exists? Is Wrong Planet a magnet for NON-AUTISTIC people who are haters?



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10 Oct 2011, 10:15 am

You have made a topic that shouldnt exist.

period

period

period



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10 Oct 2011, 10:15 am

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Let me clarify, by "neurotypical", I mean people who don't have autism nor aspergers.


Perhaps just say that, then?


Perhaps you should just know what I mean? You already know what my definition of the word "neurotypical" is, so you're obviously just being difficult.



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10 Oct 2011, 10:19 am

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Let me clarify, by "neurotypical", I mean people who don't have autism nor aspergers.


Perhaps just say that, then?


I've recently put NT in the pull down box.

I have been been thinking I may be creating more confusion than necessary here, by my dx status. I'm not autistic, and a neurotypical status would suffice here enough, though I'm ADHD. Putting "not sure" could mislead others, as for one, I am sure now that I do not have any parts of it. But on the other side of the coin a "neurotypical" stamp can cause a stir in some threads, as: " what is he doing here and why--family member-- just curious, etc?"

Maybe Mod Moog can put ADHD as an option in the box. :P



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10 Oct 2011, 10:20 am

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If you hate this site so much, why are you still here?


Who said I hated Wrong Planet? I think you ought to read my posts more closely, next time.

Here's my intent: IS WRONG PLANET A BEACON FOR MISANTHROPISTS?

We already know it attracts aspies and autistics. Now, what about misanthropists?

It's obvious there's a group of people on Wrong Planet who haven't been diagnosed with autism or aspergers who are actually NTs, and I'm trying to characterize the motivations and characteristics of these NTs who are attracted here.

So far, I'm thinking there are:

1) hypochondriacs
2) misanthropists
3) highly unpopular weirdos
4) People with ADHD
5) People with communication disorders
6) Highly gifted individuals
7) NTs who have cognitive similarities to aspies ("Aspie-like NTs")
(There are possibly still more)

And this thread is exploring the existence of the number 2 subgroup, misanthropists.


Well gee, swbluto, you got me there! I have been classified as "gifted", I am diagnosed with ADHD as well as AS, and my communication with regard to emotional issues sucks a$$, so you got me on three of the above, AND I have AS!

I really wish you would stop armchair-diagnosing members here.


There's a difference between arm-chair diagnosing individuals and conducting anthropological studies on a sub-population. This thread is far from being guilty of the former.


I left your post there to show that you are indeed armchair-diagnosing. You're saying some members here on WP are "hypochondriacs", some are "misanthropists", etc, without a shred of proof or even evidence. And "conducting anthropological studies"??? Give me a break! Anthropological studies use scientific method, not totally bogus YouTube videos! *bites tongue*

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I didn't say some people here were "hypochondriacs", some are "misanthropists", etc, I'm just speculating about WP's non-autistic demographics, and threads like these verify the existence of those particular subgroups. Investigating and verifying the existence of a subgroup is what I would call an anthropological study, though obviously not with the rigor of Harvard. That's a given for a public forum. :wink:

Now, if you guys want to hire me as a researcher, I could make threads like these more rigorous. Just paypal $200.00 to [email protected] and I'll upgrade the thread in a jiffy.



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10 Oct 2011, 10:21 am

swbluto wrote:
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Let me clarify, by "neurotypical", I mean people who don't have autism nor aspergers.


Perhaps just say that, then?


Perhaps you should just know what I mean? You already know what my definition of the word "neurotypical" is, so you're obviously just being difficult.


If you are serious your theory of mind blows. :P



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10 Oct 2011, 10:27 am

Mdyar wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Let me clarify, by "neurotypical", I mean people who don't have autism nor aspergers.


Perhaps just say that, then?


Perhaps you should just know what I mean? You already know what my definition of the word "neurotypical" is, so you're obviously just being difficult.


If you are serious your theory of mind blows. :P


lol, no, we've had this disagreement before, so she's had the opportunity to learn my view of the word in the past.



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10 Oct 2011, 10:27 am

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I'm full of hate, especially towards weaners to start multiple threads daily to exercise their personal demons and air their dirt laundry, gossiping away like a nanna, due to mainly being bored and destructive

I hate them with such a pure and unadulterated hatred, that sometimes I imagine they are dead and gone, and I never here of them again


I'm also full of hate, especially towards weaners that comment in multiple threads to point out these so called personal demons and dirty laundry that don't exist, make accusations of gossiping that never actually happens, falsely interprets the OP's intent and makes accusatory statements, and continuously acts derogatory towards said person. If anything, you're merely jealous of their awesomeness and, predictably, awesome people get a critic or two.

I always thought it's the other way around, they being jealous of my awesomness and all. In the past I've had people confirm this by telling me they hated me because they were under the impression they didn't think my life was tough because I am an only child. It never occured to them I could be an only child and still experience difficulties.

They were also jealous because I had a couple of surgeries and got a lot of attention for it. Even some parents expressed jealousy over that. It was the lowest, most petty moment I have ever seen the human stoop to, personally. I mean really. Jealous of someone because they had to endure operations? To me it just seems sick.



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10 Oct 2011, 10:28 am

swbluto wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Let me clarify, by "neurotypical", I mean people who don't have autism nor aspergers.


Perhaps just say that, then?


Perhaps you should just know what I mean? You already know what my definition of the word "neurotypical" is, so you're obviously just being difficult.


There are two competing uses of the word "neurotypical" and I see them both used with equal frequency. One is "person not on the autism spectrum" and one is "person with no condition described in the DSM". Sometimes it is obvious from context which is meant. In this case it isn't. Hopefully at some point there will be a majority consensus that chooses one use over the other. But until then, you should specify. Or at least not get annoyed when people ask for which use you are using.



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10 Oct 2011, 10:31 am

swbluto wrote:
Mdyar wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Let me clarify, by "neurotypical", I mean people who don't have autism nor aspergers.


Perhaps just say that, then?


Perhaps you should just know what I mean? You already know what my definition of the word "neurotypical" is, so you're obviously just being difficult.


If you are serious your theory of mind blows. :P


lol, no, we've had this disagreement before, so she's had the opportunity to learn my view of the word in the past.


Unless it was a truly unforgettable debate that also got re-hashed in multiple threads that would cement your preferred use in her mind, I don't think it's fair to expect a poster to keep a mental tally of which use each other poster uses. I sure can't.



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10 Oct 2011, 10:35 am

This thread is ridiculous. You have found 3 out of 4047864 posts which may be deemed as 'hate posts' and conclude that those 3 people speak for the 56,600 members on this website. Also if you look at the ages of the people who wrote those comments for example;
[img][800:348]http://i51.tinypic.com/15nautc.png[/img]

Kids say stupid stuff all the time, i hear kids say they wish their parents were dead all the time. That must mean all NT People hate their mothers and want them dead.


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10 Oct 2011, 10:38 am

Mdyar wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Let me clarify, by "neurotypical", I mean people who don't have autism nor aspergers.


Perhaps just say that, then?


I've recently put NT in the pull down box.

I have been been thinking I may be creating more confusion than necessary here, by my dx status. I'm not autistic, and a neurotypical status would suffice here enough, though I'm ADHD. Putting "not sure" could mislead others, as for one, I am sure now that I do not have any parts of it. But on the other side of the coin a "neurotypical" stamp can cause a stir in some threads, as: " what is he doing here and why--family member-- just curious, etc?"

Maybe Mod Moog can put ADHD as an option in the box. :P


Mod Moog is sadly(?) not Site Admin Moog


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10 Oct 2011, 10:38 am

Janissy wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Mdyar wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Let me clarify, by "neurotypical", I mean people who don't have autism nor aspergers.


Perhaps just say that, then?


Perhaps you should just know what I mean? You already know what my definition of the word "neurotypical" is, so you're obviously just being difficult.


If you are serious your theory of mind blows. :P


lol, no, we've had this disagreement before, so she's had the opportunity to learn my view of the word in the past.


Unless it was a truly unforgettable debate that also got re-hashed in multiple threads that would cement your preferred use in her mind, I don't think it's fair to expect a poster to keep a mental tally of which use each other poster uses. I sure can't.


Acknowledged. I thought it was pretty significant, though not necessarily multiple-thread spanning. But then again, my memory was measured at the 1%, so I might have unrealistic expectations as far as what people would remember for something of that significance.

Maybe my ToM does blow, OH DEAR! lol. No, I was only half-joking/half-serious about that... I was joking in the case she didn't remember, and I was being serious in the case she did.



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10 Oct 2011, 10:39 am

Ugh, the only thing I hate about this is when people discuss NT's as if they're some sort of separate species and how Aspies are faultless and incapable of malicious acts.

"Oh, I wish NT's could just see things through an Aspie's eyes, then they'd realise how much better the world could be." <- B.S.


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10 Oct 2011, 10:45 am

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Ugh, the only thing I hate about this is when people discuss NT's as if they're some sort of separate species and how Aspies are faultless and incapable of malicious acts.

"Oh, I wish NT's could just see things through an Aspie's eyes, then they'd realise how much better the world could be." <- B.S.


:lol: I know what you mean, we can equally be pricks too. I don't get this whole 'purity' BS either.


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10 Oct 2011, 10:48 am

swbluto wrote:
Janissy wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Mdyar wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Let me clarify, by "neurotypical", I mean people who don't have autism nor aspergers.


Perhaps just say that, then?


Perhaps you should just know what I mean? You already know what my definition of the word "neurotypical" is, so you're obviously just being difficult.


If you are serious your theory of mind blows. :P


lol, no, we've had this disagreement before, so she's had the opportunity to learn my view of the word in the past.


Unless it was a truly unforgettable debate that also got re-hashed in multiple threads that would cement your preferred use in her mind, I don't think it's fair to expect a poster to keep a mental tally of which use each other poster uses. I sure can't.


Acknowledged. I thought it was pretty significant, though not necessarily multiple-thread spanning. But then again, my memory was measured at the 1%, so I might have unrealistic expectations as far as what people would remember for something of that significance.

Maybe my ToM does blow, OH DEAR! lol. No, I was only half-joking/half-serious about that... I was joking in the case she didn't remember, and I was being serious in the case she did.


Looks like not being straightforward is harming and not enhancing your communications.


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