Autism <-----> Schizophrenia (Opposites?)

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Autism brain and the Schizophrenic brain may very well be opposites!

"Both the systemizing/mechanistic skills characteristic of the male brain and the empathizing/mentalistic skills characteristic of the female brain are distributed normally in the population. It means that most men and most women have their sex-typical brains in the moderate range, but some people have extremely strong or extremely weak versions (just like most people are of average height, but some people are extremely tall or extremely short). What are the “extreme male brain”? What are the “extreme female brain”?"

Here's an article on such a topic:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the ... le-brain-w

I don't see this at all. Schizophrenia results in the positive symptoms of psychosis and the negative symptoms of poverty of thought/speech and apathy. There are lots of neuropsych disorders that don't result in these symptoms, so how are ASDs specifically the opposite?

I don't think autism and schizophrenia are opposites at all. In fact I know people who have both.

I also feel like I have some traits that are vaguely in common with schizophrenics, from first hand experience interacting with them. It seems they are people who have a lot going on inside their mind but no way to express it to others. I've felt this way before. They're also very obsessive and constantly thinking and making up theories, something I can also relate to. Even if they come across as a bit illogical and nutty, I don't mind listening to them as I'm sure they appreciate not being dismissed, laughed at, or treated condescendingly.

I have both autism and schizophrenia, and I am pretty sure they are not opposites. If they are, my mind is way more screwed up than I thought it was ^-^

For real.

I would all cancel out and you would be normal if the two conditions really were "opposite".

Nature does not necessarily set up things with opposites.

And schzophrenia is a such a broad category with so many subdivisions that it probably the opposite of itsself.

Ive toyed with the notion that the opposite of psychosis is clinical depression. Depressed people are hyperaware of dangers in the world and might be thought of 'hypersane'.

But thats another topic.

You might break schzophrenia down to some narrow subtype - like paranoia and try to imagine an opposite condition.

Folks say the the "opposite of autism is William's Syndrome"- a rare condition in which the person is compelled to socialize nonstop. Makes sense to me.

But I dont see how szchophrenia and autism are opposite- in fact both involve being self involved - and being cut off from the outside reality.

Schizophrenia and Autism are very different. A person with Schizophrenia Paranoid type is usually paranoid 95 percent of the time, they seek out conspiracy sites as a way to relate to the paranoia that is inherent to their brain state. I never had that, but at one point I got diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, schizo-affective, schizophrenia undifferentiated, adhd, bipolar and finally with just one look a woman says 100 percent she's certain I've been misdiagnosed, that they need to change my treatment plan and I'm actually high functioning Autistic. But I'm such a good actor, that I could play any role!

Sometimes society projects its fears onto a person, and in a way scapegoats them into schizophrenia because they're too lazy to figure or read between the lines of what's actually going on. Words don't always fit to explain a certain state of mind because people are so complex and so is consciousness.

My doctor and therapist started to suspect I had been previously misdiagnosed based on the fact I've been doing well in college, that I can drive, I have no cognitive deficits, I'm never paranoid. My problem? I'm very susceptible to suggestive input. So if someone told me I had schizophrenia, I would look it up and apply it to myself. If someone said I had Bipolar, I'd start acting moody. Because these labels display only a fraction of human consciousness and the ability of the mind. People aren't always sad, or always happy. I'm never moody either. But anti-depressants make me ill as they do for many people. Since I can't take them, my doctor than adds bipolar to the mix even when the mania went away off Prozac etc. It feels so manufactured. I only heard voices when I was put on a high dose 180mgs of Geodon against my will. I only got catatonic after being put on Risperdal, I even got the fatal face rash on Lamictal.

Maybe I'm just sensitive to medications!?

For someone who's been on the schizophrenia spectrum for like eight years, I know that schizophrenia equates to pure socialist BS. At least for me, and many others who have probably been misdiagnosed. But my doctors never account my childhood or my life situations, they just look at the book as if that's more real than the person in front of them.

I don't think they are opposites either. I think that all diagnoses like autism, schizophrenia, schizoid, ADHD, bipolar etc are all related to each other. A lot of people will have a little of all of them. I think I might be one of thoose people who have a little dash of every diagnose. I am diagnosed with ADHD, and I am pretty sure I have an ASD as well. I also have elements of schizoid and probably also bipolar.

Schizophrenia means bad interaction between left and right hemisphere.

Autism means over connectivity or under connectivity or under connectivity in some parts of brain.

Autist also has some less connectivity between hemispheres and can lead to schizophrenia if they have the similar or same problem as schizophrenics.

More importantly the different wiring in autistic brains is clearly creating differently pronounced AS symptoms. Some may be very logical may have bad memory for learning in school, but still may have great rote memory etc.

I think an AS with lack of motivation or with problems to focus maybe miss diagnosed and labeled Schizophrenic too.

Also bad communication and lack of communication may cause autist to withdraw from social interaction. The withdrawal is different from schizophrenic people, because schizophrenic people withdraw from society, because they can not comprehend other people. Not that they can not read them. Honestly the confusion is pretty obvious here.

However schizophrenic may have episodes where they think something that is not real. For example they may seem to see aliens. And apart from normal people they can not tell this is not true. A non schizophrenic person will think about aliens. But will not say that they do exist until they actually see them. But schizophrenic person will point to sky for example and say “Look aliens!”, nothing will be there.

It gets very mirage-y.

All of these labels.

Doesnt it?

lol yes it does.

l feel like l was trolled.

[quote="EXPECIALLY"]lol yes it does.

So what brings you to wrongplanet-since you're not on the spectrum?

oh, l've hung around here for a long time. kind of, l just don't post for months on end. l considered the idea of AS many, many moons ago but never self diagnosed.

Are you kicking me out lol?