How many psychiatric comorbidities do you have?

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How many psychiatric comorbidities in addition to autism (ASD) do you have?
no comorbidities 7%  7%  [ 13 ]
1 20%  20%  [ 35 ]
2 24%  24%  [ 43 ]
3 28%  28%  [ 50 ]
4 11%  11%  [ 20 ]
5 4%  4%  [ 7 ]
6 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
7 or more 5%  5%  [ 9 ]
Total votes : 179

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19 Apr 2013, 6:21 am

I have 6:-

-Anxiety
-Depression
-Stress disorder
-''Suffers with nerves'' (don't know what that's medically called)
-Social Phobia
-Intellectual learning difficulty


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19 Apr 2013, 6:33 am

Four:

# OCD
# ADHD
# A bit of Dyslexia
# Some Prosopagnosia


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21 Apr 2013, 8:10 pm

My Schizotypal was changed to Aspergers, but I also have Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Major Depressive Disorder, and there was one more I cannot remember, right now.... :?


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21 Apr 2013, 8:11 pm

Oh, yeah! It's Dependant Personality Disorder!


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22 Apr 2013, 1:16 pm

I don't have any diagnosed comorbidities, but I do think there's a very strong possibility that I have comorbid OCD; intrusive thoughts, mysophobia, counting rituals, blasphemous thoughts, excessive hand washing etc...Does that count, then?


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22 Apr 2013, 1:22 pm

KnarlyDUDE09 wrote:
I don't have any diagnosed comorbidities, but I do think there's a very strong possibility that I have comorbid OCD; intrusive thoughts, mysophobia, counting rituals, blasphemous thoughts, excessive hand washing etc...Does that count, then?


Well that's not a scientific question here and just out of couriosity.
So if there is a high propability that you have OCD, I would say it also counts. :)


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22 Apr 2013, 1:46 pm

Raziel wrote:
KnarlyDUDE09 wrote:
I don't have any diagnosed comorbidities, but I do think there's a very strong possibility that I have comorbid OCD; intrusive thoughts, mysophobia, counting rituals, blasphemous thoughts, excessive hand washing etc...Does that count, then?


Well that's not a scientific question here and just out of couriosity.
So if there is a high propability that you have OCD, I would say it also counts. :)
Ok...thanks. :)


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22 Apr 2013, 3:33 pm

Depression. Have also been diagnosed (as a teenager) with OCD. But it's a sensory thing,



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23 Apr 2013, 1:03 pm

I'm not really sure how many diagnoses they wrote down as they didn't tell me much as a kid and I didn't ask and now I'm too scared to request the report but there's a few I know confirmed on paper, translated from my language. This is more who I were over 10 years ago or so between 11 and 16:

Old diagnoses:
Major depressive disorder (wrong, I'm quite obviously bipolar and not a very mild version, being depressive was just a bigger issue for me as a kid when I started seeing psychiatrists. Went manic by the SRRIs but it wasn't the first time.)
Social phobia (before AS-diagnosis. Kind of right then, but I am afraid of people in a paranoid way, I don't give a f**k what most people think of me, and I don't actually know intuitively how to socialize due to AS)
Generalized anxiety disorder
Panic disorder
Asperger's syndrome (I think I'm somewhere between AS and HFA but whatever)
Almost AD(H)D (Got tested and got ADD-results but I messed that up. Because the first thing new DRs ask me when I meet them is "have you ever heard of ADHD?" I think I might be able to get a diagnosis if I ever get some energy for all that but I seriously do not care much at all about my psychiatric conditions right now except as curiosa because I have much bigger physical issues. It is just fun to talk about it here)

Stuff related to autism:
Audio-processing disorder
Moderate prosopagnosia
Some hyperlexia (the bad and the good)
Synesthesia

Stuff I probably have that is undiagnosed because I'm not seeing any psychiatrists:
Bipolar (or a similar severe cyclical mood disorder)
Something on the schizo-sprectrum. I'm not even telling you guys why.
PTSD
A little OCD

And a lot of other stuff.



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23 Apr 2013, 1:18 pm

I sincerely didn't think the psychiatric co-morbidity rate of individuals with high-functioning ASD's would be at this level of magnitude (Over 90%). Although only a few have admitted having dyslexia, dyspraxia, and dyscalculia which are classified as "neurological" conditions, and along with autism are encompassed within the Neurodiversity continuum. I think the incidence statistics of the presence of psychiatric disorders juxtaposed with ASD would show a very high declension if normal people would allow people with ASD's and neurological "differences" to be more welcomed, and accepted to contribute with their exceptional talents which are highly enviable and overlooked to society. Environmental predisposition/suspectability to anxiety, depression, bullying, childhood abuse, inadequate nurturing, and domestic violence are the major denominators that contribute to a psychological disorder, which people with ASD's are unjustly vulnerable to as a result of intolerance.

I'd consider myself quite lucky not to have a psychiatric condition despite years of severe bullying and alienation.
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24 Apr 2013, 10:18 pm

There was this study of personality disorders and AS that aghogday summarized:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt218441.html wrote:
Out of 62 individuals studied with Asperger's syndrome 68% had one personality disorder and 40% had two personality disorders co-morbid with Asperger's syndrome. 40% were reported obsessive, 29% avoidant, 21% schizoid, 19% paranoid, and 16% schizotypal, among others identified in the second link below that provides a table to illustrate the results.

Out of 50 individuals studied with PDD NOS, 60% had one personality disorder and 32% had two personality disorders co-morbid with PDDNOS, with a breakdown of the personality disorders illustrated in the table.

Out of 5 individuals studied with Autistic Disorder 20% had one personality disorder, 0% had two personality disorders; one individual was identified with obsessive personality disorder with no other personality disorders identified in this very small sample of individuals with autistic disorder.

The study is worth checking out as it has some other interesting information.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2705351/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... /table/T4/



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25 Apr 2013, 1:06 am

Anomiel wrote:
There was this study of personality disorders and AS that aghogday summarized:


Thanks for posting it here Anomiel, the study is very interesting. :)
I just always wonder by those studies. In reality it takes sometimes months or even years until all disorders in one person are correctly identified, missdx are sorted out and until it's clear what just looks similar and what the person really has and in those studies they do it all at once within a realativly small time. Can it even work?


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26 Apr 2013, 3:14 pm

Raziel wrote:
Anomiel wrote:
There was this study of personality disorders and AS that aghogday summarized:


Thanks for posting it here Anomiel, the study is very interesting. :)
I just always wonder by those studies. In reality it takes sometimes months or even years until all disorders in one person are correctly identified, missdx are sorted out and until it's clear what just looks similar and what the person really has and in those studies they do it all at once within a realativly small time. Can it even work?


I have no idea :) Hopefully the testing was more thorough than the 7-questions-personality disorder test.
It's very muddled what is what with diagnoses, but I think more people are realizing that you don't get to have some kind of limit to how far from the norm you can be so multiple diagnoses will probably become more common :) Once they figure out how to properly diagnose ASD-folks with anything, as everything is based on you being neurotypical to start with. Using "general you" here, I don't understand why english lack so many words.
This is somewhat related:

http://www.additudemag.com/adhd/article/2511.html wrote:
It can be difficult enough to obtain a diagnosis of attention deficit disorder (ADD ADHD), but to complicate matters further, ADHD commonly co-exists with other mental and physical disorders. One review of ADHD adults demonstrated that 42 percent had one other major psychiatric disorder. Therefore, the diagnostic question is not “Is it one or the other?” but rather “Is it both?”

Perhaps the most difficult differential diagnosis to make is between ADHD and Bipolar Mood Disorder (BMD), since they share many symptoms, including mood instability, bursts of energy and restlessness, talkativeness, and impatience. It’s estimated that as many as 20 percent of those diagnosed with ADHD also suffer from a mood disorder on the bipolar spectrum -- and correct diagnosis is critical in treating bipolar disorder and ADHD together.



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27 Apr 2013, 10:26 am

Anomiel wrote:
I have no idea :) Hopefully the testing was more thorough than the 7-questions-personality disorder test.
It's very muddled what is what with diagnoses, but I think more people are realizing that you don't get to have some kind of limit to how far from the norm you can be so multiple diagnoses will probably become more common :) Once they figure out how to properly diagnose ASD-folks with anything, as everything is based on you being neurotypical to start with. Using "general you" here, I don't understand why english lack so many words.


I think on those studies they just let you take some tests and look how you score.
I'm even not 100% certain about my diagnoses and every psychiatrist says something different and some know me for a long time. So in psychiatry it's sometimes just a matter of interpretation and I don't know exactly what to belief.

I can't belief that it's really to 100% possible to diagnose you with 3 to 5 different disorders on average in a day or so with just some tests and a bit talking. If they can do it in the studies, why can't normal psychiatrists do that? I think it might work to get a clue what it might be, but no exact diagnoses.

Yeah, I know about the ADHD dilemma, I've a bit a simmilar problem finding out if I really have Bipolar II. It's the same mess with schizotypal and ASD and so on. :?
Psychiatry is very difficult to figure out the exact combination and maybe it's just not possible in some cases and just a matter of interpretation.

Here is something interesting, I also just linked somewhere else:
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Raziel wrote:
Anomiel wrote:
I have no idea :) Hopefully the testing was more thorough than the 7-questions-personality disorder test.
It's very muddled what is what with diagnoses, but I think more people are realizing that you don't get to have some kind of limit to how far from the norm you can be so multiple diagnoses will probably become more common :) Once they figure out how to properly diagnose ASD-folks with anything, as everything is based on you being neurotypical to start with. Using "general you" here, I don't understand why english lack so many words.


I think on those studies they just let you take some tests and look how you score.
I'm even not 100% certain about my diagnoses and every psychiatrist says something different and some know me for a long time. So in psychiatry it's sometimes just a matter of interpretation and I don't know exactly what to belief.

I can't belief that it's really to 100% possible to diagnose you with 3 to 5 different disorders on average in a day or so with just some tests and a bit talking. If they can do it in the studies, why can't normal psychiatrists do that? I think it might work to get a clue what it might be, but no exact diagnoses.

Yeah, I know about the ADHD dilemma, I've a bit a simmilar problem finding out if I really have Bipolar II. It's the same mess with schizotypal and ASD and so on. :?
Psychiatry is very difficult to figure out the exact combination and maybe it's just not possible in some cases and just a matter of interpretation.

Here is something interesting, I also just linked somewhere else:
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Wow I love graphs like that, much easier to visualize :D
I have many of the physical things too, and not just the ones causing problems but things like heterochromia and RH negativity etc, maybe there should be a thread for that.
I think maybe psychologists/psychiatrists only diagnose if it would need some help (in their mind) or is traditional enough in it's presentation, otherwise they don't bother as most have traits in varying strength of everything, and they probably dismiss PDs too often as part of ASD when it's really not. It might be an attitude thing and too little info about ASD and not just a difficult thing. We both would probably benefit from going to some kind of famous expert for testing, but how we'd go about that I don't know. :(
Though the team that diagnosed me could be counted as experts in a way, but there were things I didn't know how to explain or felt comfortable talking about, and things have changed much since then, so I should probably just go for another round of that but it was so exhausting 8O



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28 Apr 2013, 3:50 am

Anomiel wrote:
Wow I love graphs like that, much easier to visualize :D
I have many of the physical things too, and not just the ones causing problems but things like heterochromia and RH negativity etc, maybe there should be a thread for that.


Yeah, I've allergies since very early on as a child asthma, also lactose intolerance and polymorphous light eruption. Oh and also hypothyroidism.

Anomiel wrote:
I think maybe psychologists/psychiatrists only diagnose if it would need some help (in their mind) or is traditional enough in it's presentation, otherwise they don't bother as most have traits in varying strength of everything, and they probably dismiss PDs too often as part of ASD when it's really not.


Well I guess it makes sence to diagnose just the disorders when they cause trouble in someonce life. Otherwise you can still talk from "traits". I once heard the theory that the difference between a personality disorder and a "normal" personality is, that everyone has some aspects of a personality disorder, but not too much that they cause any impairment. There is propably a lot of truth in it.

Yeah, the differences and coocurence between personality disorders and ASD are sadly still not totally clear, also if autistics need in some of them another cut off and so on. Maybe we even need a different concept, who knows. But I also noticed that psychiatrists usually don't feel confortable to diagnose some disorders together like PDs and ASD for example. The mainproblem is that people with ASD also have certain unusually longlasting behavioural patterns like people with PDs. The maindifference is, that people with ASD have their symptoms from very early on.
I know one of my strongest symptoms I have at the moment is the "Odd beliefs or magical thinking, influencing behavior and inconsistent with subcultural norms;" what's actually a symptom of schizotypal and I don't think that you can explain that with ASD. But it also first occourt in puperty, or short befor and not in childhood like the autistic symptoms.

Anomiel wrote:
It might be an attitude thing and too little info about ASD and not just a difficult thing. We both would probably benefit from going to some kind of famous expert for testing, but how we'd go about that I don't know. :(
Though the team that diagnosed me could be counted as experts in a way, but there were things I didn't know how to explain or felt comfortable talking about, and things have changed much since then, so I should probably just go for another round of that but it was so exhausting 8O


Well I stopped careing in what they diagnose me with.
I wanted to talk to my psychiatrist the last time about disorders, but somehow I didn't :oops:
But I also found out, that because of the fact that many autistics are highly analytical they tend to find out their disorders they have very often themselfs. ^^


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