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Do you think that a place for positive and inspirational tales from members is a good idea?
Yes - It would give people something to aim for, and show them that things can get better 63%  63%  [ 45 ]
No - That's just bragging 18%  18%  [ 13 ]
Maybe - please post reason below 18%  18%  [ 13 ]
Total votes : 71

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18 Feb 2013, 12:15 pm

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Actually I can see what RawSugar is getting at here, and I see your point kamiyu910. I think the communication have gotten a little tangled though.... I'm going to have a stab at unravelling it.

If you are in the grips of clinical depression, a positive attitude is most likely impossible to achieve. I haven't had it myself, but someone close to me did and it took a while to get through it. That person is under normal circumstances a very positive soul, so it was disconcerting and deeply scarey to say the least to see how down they were and how bleak thier view of everything was for a while. Those imbalances probably have to be addressed before a truly positive attitude is possible.

However, if you aren't like that, then your personal outlook has a HUGE effect on how things are viewed in your life.

If you are negative in attitude, small setbacks become large in your mind. You dwell on every tiny slight by others or your own screwups. You blame the rest of the world for your problems, refuse to listen to or attempt to understand those "damned happy bouncy people", you always expect the worst and convince yourself that anyone who is happy is living a lie.

If you are a positive type, you don't worry about the small stuff. You take responsibility for your own actions and understand that how your life pans out is mostly up to you. You own it. You change it. If you hate your situation, you look for ways to improve it. You keep trying.

I should add that these or NOT statements of fact or attacks on anyone, they're simply my opinion. It most certainly is not my intent to offend anyone. Just my tuppence worth.


I think that makes sense, as I can see myself doing that when I'm horribly upset and depressed. But knowing that I'm doing it doesn't help me. I have tried so hard, but to no avail. But like you said, actual depression is different. I don't know what it's like to be otherwise.


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18 Feb 2013, 1:23 pm

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I have no idea how to do that.


To be as objective as possible, accept there is a reality outside of yourself and try to understand it as much as possible

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I know from past experience though that my outlook is what defines my personality and how I cope with life. When I adhered to a negative veiw, things often turned terrible. However, once I had made the decision to try and switch to thinking positively, my life improved. That's all I have to go on.


This is where you've lost me. How are you able to arbitrarily just switch to thinking positively without changing the negative stimuli? How is it logically possible to make this decision and carry it out? For me, it is like you're telling me I can control my heartbeat with my own thought. This is interesting to me because I didn't know this was possible.



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There's analysing and evaluating, and then there's dwelling too much. If you spend all your time worrying about what went wrong in the past you're going to harm both your present and future. Too much introspection is as bad as not doing any at all. Yes, try and work out what went wrong. But don't let that process rob you of the joy you could be having simply by being outside and enjoying the sunshine.


I do have problems with analysis paralysis.

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If you are a positive type, you don't worry about the small stuff. You take responsibility for your own actions and understand that how your life pans out is mostly up to you. You own it. You change it. If you hate your situation, you look for ways to improve it. You keep trying.




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I guess you need to speak to the person who says you did something wrong. Or post a thread on the forums describing what happened and see if anyone else has any insight as to what you did wrong.


You're making a general claim I did not understand.

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In all honesty I have no clue what you're getting at in that last sentence. And just for the record, I never claimed to be an expert in psychology or in the study of positive thinking. I just thought it would be nice to have somewhere devoted to the happy Aspies.

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To me it has to be genuine not artificially contrived and forced through a social veneer.



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Fair enough.


Yes, Fair Enough.



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20 Feb 2013, 2:27 pm

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I've been lurking and sporadically posting on here for a while now, and what has really struck me is the level of negative attitudes going around. I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but hey ho....

Don't get me wrong, I know that being an Aspie is hard, and I've had more than my fair share of social faux pas explode in my face, but it seems to me that a huge amount of the discussions here are people who have essentially either given up entirely, or blame NTs for all their problems. I've been thinking about making this topic for a while now, and finally decided to do it in the hope of opening up this for discussion.

Surely trying to live with a positive attitude is more helpful? Saying to yourself "Okay, I screwed that up, how can I avoid that next time?" rather than curling up in a ball and giving up on the world, or fostering hatred and bitterness toward NTs. And yes, I know that it isn't always possible to avoid it the next time either, due to our general inability to predict social outcomes....

Does anyone have any ideas as to how to help people here veiw the world more positively? Maybe a thread for positive thoughts, that could serve as inspiration?

:)


I see your TARDIS avatar, so I will post this: YANA :D
I noticed the same things as well, and agree 100%.


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21 Feb 2013, 4:06 am

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I see your TARDIS avatar, so I will post this: YANA :D
I noticed the same things as well, and agree 100%.


Aha, another Whovian! Utopia I believe.... and thanks for the support, good to know there are others out there who feel the same way.

Pleased that you liked the avatar... is me in costume in it. Taken by a friend of mine when the Doctor Who exhibition was up at the Life centre in Newcastle Upon Tyne. That was a very fun geeky day :)

Cubedemon, I'm sorry but I really don't think I'm equipped to have the discussion to seem to want.....



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22 Feb 2013, 6:47 pm

Kelspook wrote:
HereBeDragons wrote:
I see your TARDIS avatar, so I will post this: YANA :D
I noticed the same things as well, and agree 100%.


Aha, another Whovian! Utopia I believe.... and thanks for the support, good to know there are others out there who feel the same way.

Pleased that you liked the avatar... is me in costume in it. Taken by a friend of mine when the Doctor Who exhibition was up at the Life centre in Newcastle Upon Tyne. That was a very fun geeky day :)

Cubedemon, I'm sorry but I really don't think I'm equipped to have the discussion to seem to want.....


:D That's fine. I knew your avatar seemed familiar though. I haven't had much of a chance to watch Dr. Who that much.