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What do you think of the "Indigo Child" meme?
I am an Indigo Child. 13%  13%  [ 14 ]
I know an Indigo Child. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I believe that Indigo Children exist, but I've never met one. 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
I believe that Indigo Children may exist, but I won't bet on it. 4%  4%  [ 4 ]
It's not likely that Indigo Children exist, but I won't bet against it. 4%  4%  [ 4 ]
I do not believe that Indigo Children exist, but I won't rule it out entirely. 8%  8%  [ 8 ]
I do not believe that Indigo Children exist. 10%  10%  [ 10 ]
I believe that Indigo Children do not exist. 10%  10%  [ 10 ]
Indigo Children do not exist. 21%  21%  [ 22 ]
Indigo-flavored icecream costs 5 quatloos a pint on Planet X. 21%  21%  [ 22 ]
Other: ________________ (Please explain below). 9%  9%  [ 9 ]
Total votes : 104

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11 Jul 2013, 8:10 am

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I've always found the idea of Indigo children to be a crock, plain and simple.


+1

Anytime I've met parents of said "indigo child", they were all crazier than a opossum in a pillowcase.

It should be -parents who desperately need to feel special and live through their children.

Included in this group are

-my child will be the next (big deal athlete name)
-my child is the next (insert famous musician/singer/entertainer)
-my child is (the next big deal thing)

A good 95% of the time, the kid isn't. The kid is smart and talented (maybe), but not scary talented or smart. Not Moazart or Bill Gates, but god how to those parents pimp that idea around.

I've met truly gifted and talent people. They nor their parents don't need to fill you in on their gifts.

The Indigo Child stuff drove my pediatrician friend bonkers a few years ago. He hated handling those parents. Living in the MidWest, woo woo type trends don't last long around here.

I'm not religious, so to believe in an indigo child is a huge stretch anyway.

*looks at dear kid

-you an indigo child?

-mom, shut up.

Won't be save the world from this corner of the world. Lol...

If you believe you are an IC, that's okay by me. I have the same reaction to any formal religion or spirtual practice. I'm not singling you out.



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11 Jul 2013, 1:35 pm

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When that cult gave me the "Child of the Seventh Chakra" label, I had much the same reaction (I was much younger, then). At first, I thought "Wow! I'm special!" Then I asked for guidance and training, and they quoted me tuition costs for one month's training that would have put me through two years of junior college!


That's very sad. You always expect to be disappointed again, so you protect yourself by never believing anything at all. You can not even accept that there are biological differences in autistics. You became disillusioned with the supernatural, and at the same time anything that was exciting or magical to you. You are lumping in real science with pseudoscience and the supernatural in all your rants. You are special. As is everyone else. There's never existed a Fnord before you. There will never be another. That's the real kind of specialness that is much more important than any supernatural nonsense.

I've already given my opinion of indigo children here: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt229430.html
This is also relevant:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJmRbSX8Rqo[/youtube]



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11 Jul 2013, 2:07 pm

I actually chose the "Indigo Children do not exist." option here. It's a bit odd to say that rather than "I don't believe Indigo Children exist", given that I'm a scientist and I have to always leave room for doubt, but here I think I can be confident in saying they do not exist. This isn't because of some huge amount of evidence against it; it's just that the definition of "Indigo child" is too vague to describe a concept that is measurably different from the concept of children in general. If you're going to make a case for their existence, then you have to start out with describing them in a way that is unique to them and making predictions that will be true only for them. This requirement hasn't been fulfilled.

The concept is so unscientific it can't even be disproven. I would like an option that says "The existence or nonexistence of Indigo Children cannot be proven," but "do not exist" is close enough for me. There are many things that cannot be proven but may be true and relevant. But when a concept can't be proven, doesn't make any predictions that could ever be tested, and doesn't change anything about how the world works, I think it is irrelevant. Not even philosophy deals with those kinds of ideas.


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11 Jul 2013, 2:25 pm

Anomiel wrote:
Fnord wrote:
When that cult gave me the "Child of the Seventh Chakra" label, I had much the same reaction (I was much younger, then). At first, I thought "Wow! I'm special!" Then I asked for guidance and training, and they quoted me tuition costs for one month's training that would have put me through two years of junior college!
That's very sad. You always expect to be disappointed again, so you protect yourself by never believing anything at all. You can not even accept that there are biological differences in autistics. You became disillusioned with the supernatural, and at the same time anything that was exciting or magical to you. You are lumping in real science with pseudoscience and the supernatural in all your rants ... blah ... blah ... blah ...

Where did you obtain your degree in remote pseudo-psychoanalysis, and can you get a refund?

:roll: ... utter bollocks ...



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11 Jul 2013, 2:29 pm

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Where did you obtain your degree in remote pseudo-psychoanalysis, and can you get a refund?

:roll: ... utter bollocks ...


You went from believing in magic (and got repeatedly disappointed, as you have claimed elsewhere) to not even believing in science. It's not that complicated.



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11 Jul 2013, 2:46 pm

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Fnord wrote:
Where did you obtain your degree in remote pseudo-psychoanalysis, and can you get a refund? :roll: ... utter bollocks ...
You went from believing in magic (and got repeatedly disappointed, as you have claimed elsewhere) to not even believing in science. It's not that complicated.

You went from two points of data to a psychological profile.

Get off my case.



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11 Jul 2013, 3:01 pm

Fnord wrote:
Anomiel wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Where did you obtain your degree in remote pseudo-psychoanalysis, and can you get a refund? :roll: ... utter bollocks ...
You went from believing in magic (and got repeatedly disappointed, as you have claimed elsewhere) to not even believing in science. It's not that complicated.

You went from two points of data to a psychological profile.

Get off my case.


Anyway, yes, it doesn't matter. Didn't mean to offend you. I'll just keep my distance :) Carry on...



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11 Jul 2013, 4:25 pm

Tawaki wrote:
hartzofspace wrote:
I've always found the idea of Indigo children to be a crock, plain and simple.


+1

Anytime I've met parents of said "indigo child", they were all crazier than a opossum in a pillowcase.

It should be -parents who desperately need to feel special and live through their children.

Included in this group are

-my child will be the next (big deal athlete name)
-my child is the next (insert famous musician/singer/entertainer)
-my child is (the next big deal thing)

A good 95% of the time, the kid isn't. The kid is smart and talented (maybe), but not scary talented or smart. Not Moazart or Bill Gates, but god how to those parents pimp that idea around.

I've met truly gifted and talent people. They nor their parents don't need to fill you in on their gifts.

The Indigo Child stuff drove my pediatrician friend bonkers a few years ago. He hated handling those parents. Living in the MidWest, woo woo type trends don't last long around here.

I'm not religious, so to believe in an indigo child is a huge stretch anyway.

*looks at dear kid

-you an indigo child?

-mom, shut up.

Won't be save the world from this corner of the world. Lol...

If you believe you are an IC, that's okay by me. I have the same reaction to any formal religion or spirtual practice. I'm not singling you out.


So..

There are no indigo children.

Only indigo parents!

Or "indi-ga-ga", perhaps.



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11 Jul 2013, 4:46 pm

The only real indigo child I ever saw had taken a bath in blue dye for Hallowe'en.

It didn't wear off until Thanksgiving.



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11 Jul 2013, 5:54 pm

Meh. I’ll pass new age chakra readings. Although, I will read a well-written astrological birth chart any day. (Not that I necessarily believe in that stuff. It's just one of those specialized knowledge things I have. Gosh, I love reading esoteric stuff. It’s so fascinating. Don’t go judging me either, it’s not like your reading obsession of sport stats is any more useful. And, might I add, understanding astrology isn’t entirely useless, you can use it to understand archaic texts and certain literary references, like Canterbury Tales or whatever… Because back in the day people actually en-masse believed in that stuff.)
Honestly, I do not believe in chakras, energy releasing gems/crystals/rocks, fairies, nature spirits, and all that stuff. Fun to read but it's all pseudo-science. In fact my biggest problem with neo-paganism/new age stuff is that they take ancient Egyptian, Celtic, American Indian, and Far East beliefs and synthesize them into one. Nooooo~ You can’t do that. That’s not how it works! Those cultures never even had contact with each other and where in existence hundreds of years apart. >.<



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11 Jul 2013, 6:50 pm

Just another viewpoint (or several on the same group of topics) here:

http://www.sunfell.com/indigo.htm

Any thoughts?


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13 Jul 2013, 3:20 am

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Meh. I’ll pass new age chakra readings. Although, I will read a well-written astrological birth chart any day. (Not that I necessarily believe in that stuff. It's just one of those specialized knowledge things I have. Gosh, I love reading esoteric stuff. It’s so fascinating. Don’t go judging me either, it’s not like your reading obsession of sport stats is any more useful. And, might I add, understanding astrology isn’t entirely useless, you can use it to understand archaic texts and certain literary references, like Canterbury Tales or whatever… Because back in the day people actually en-masse believed in that stuff.)
Honestly, I do not believe in chakras, energy releasing gems/crystals/rocks, fairies, nature spirits, and all that stuff. Fun to read but it's all pseudo-science. In fact my biggest problem with neo-paganism/new age stuff is that they take ancient Egyptian, Celtic, American Indian, and Far East beliefs and synthesize them into one. Nooooo~ You can’t do that. That’s not how it works! Those cultures never even had contact with each other and where in existence hundreds of years apart. >.<
No need to worry; we're not going to get on your case about having a special interest that involves astrology even though you don't actually believe in astrology. Many of us have had much weirder special interests than that. I do statistics problems for fun... :oops:


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13 Jul 2013, 1:01 pm

conundrum wrote:
Just another viewpoint (or several on the same group of topics) here:

http://www.sunfell.com/indigo.htm

Any thoughts?


Just seems a mish mash of random thinking to me.



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14 Jul 2013, 12:53 am

We need a thread on how many Autistics are Reptilians next.That would cover the stare and lack of emotional response. :lol:


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03 Oct 2013, 5:54 am

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In the end, being part of any one "group", "scientific" or otherwise, does not make you anything other than a unique individual, no matter what. IMO, people can believe what they like, as long as no one (including themselves) are harmed by it. This is the same reason I think children should be taught ABOUT religion, but not indoctrinated into one--rather, they should be given the resources to decide for themselves when they grow up.



This is a healthier perspective. Labels tend to separate us into groups. Groups adopt each other’s similarities and tend to go to war against groups who are different. . . racial, religious, political - throughout history.

(However, being “weird” and part of a group is more fun than being “weird” and alone. ) 8)



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03 Oct 2013, 12:16 pm

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(However, being “weird” and part of a group is more fun than being “weird” and alone. ) 8)


Quite. :)

And yes--there is no reason to further divide "us" from "them"--there's far too much of that already.


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